Anyone else see that huge changes are happening right now and we’re still sleep walking?

[RudsyFarmer]

its Interesting to me that life is just carrying on while there are huge, seismic shifts occurring globally that will impact us. It’s like the start of the pandemic actually. When I read the paper and Covid had been found in China and I thought, ah China, that’s along way away and within a couple of weeks we were at the beginning of lockdowns and my joke about hoarding pasta became a reality.

We’re about to have a heatwave in October. We now have wildfires as standard in Europe every summer and mass migration of people from continents that are starting to become inhabitable are overrunning areas of Italy and Greece. More and more people will start moving away from devastated land in search of more temperate weather, food, housing and employment.

This isn’t something that will be happening in a decade. It’s happening right now. The places that used to grow our food are going to start conserving the food for their own people. I want to feel positive but I can’t see how times are going to get better from here. I read the news and it feels really, really fucking bleak.

Wait until people realise that it's been observed that volcanoes erupting is season related and it's been noted that this is to do with ocean temperatures.

Oh you mean you didn't hear about the earthquake in Naples this week and the warnings about the supervolcano Naples sits on.

Or the lack of major volcano eruption planning internationally.

I'm not worried about the wildfires.

Having watched Chris Packham’s documentary a couple of weekends ago, once the super volcanos erupt were finished anyway. Didn’t actually realise that until I watched it.

The world is a very rough sphere and gravity connects all of us. Until everybody with power and influence realises that we will keep sleep walking.

Go on then, I’ll bite. What are you suggesting is the issue with a 4.0 earthquake in Naples?

If you think volcanic and seismic activity round Naples is either kept secret or is new then you’re going to have your mind blown when you read about Pompeii and Herculaneum.

You’re suggesting that politicians don’t know about gravity?

That seems unlikely.

😂

Watch The Age of Stupid on Amazon Prime. It's where we are now and where we will be if we don't wake up.

More subtle than that. We are connected in everything we do. Every policy we make connects us with everybody else in some way. It was the connected bit that was important.

A few years back a thread on here said name things we have now that we will not have in 25 years. People put telephones, petrol cars, etc. I said we will have no more beaches. Posters expressed a sense of ridicule.

I am sure RTB knows what she posts. I don't think you will blow their mind.

Yep.

Well I think our species as a whole can probably survive a super volcano but it'll be 'messy'.

From what I recall they’ll be no clean air to breath, so I’m not sure about that.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0fpwly8

I have to admit I found this troubling

Twitter link:
x.com/ed_hawkins/status/1706600817875173501?s=20

I think it's quite possible that we're being led to believe there's nothing too serious about covid (funny how people are ready to see that "project fear" was manipulation, but refuse to consider the possibility that "but its just a cold" is exactly the same thing).

We don't know its long term effects, and we're sleepwalking with the assumption that the acute phase is all we need to consider. Even though we know the damage it's doing to many body parts and functions. And even though we don't know if it has a later effect (like other pathogens such as chicken pox - reappears as shingles, HIV - presents as mild flu the re-emerges years later as AIDS, syphillis - appears to spontaneously resolve before reappearing in secondary and tertiary form)

Plus long covid - if you assume 2x covid infections a year, and you want your DC born today to have a greater that 50% chance of not acquiring long covid by the time they're 50, then the incidence of long covid needs to be below 0.5% per infection. Evidence is still emerging, but ONS puts it between 3% and 12%.

This has potential to be a far greater problem than the aging population.

You have to click on the picture but essentially the red lines are 2023 by different records, the blue green yellow are previous years back to the C19th

So you didn’t mean gravity then?

And yes, of course you should be ridiculed for claiming that we won’t have beaches in 25 years, it’s an imbecilic claim.

Oh and it shows global temperature differences (warmer or cooler) vs the average (shown a zero on the y axis) from the period 1980- 2010

Don’t watch the news. What can you do about volcanos erupting? Get on with living your life. Life is short as it is. I can’t see how humans can control certain things that happen like earthquakes, volcanoes etc

We will have some beaches, but we are already losing some beaches today. I am sure you would agree with that? If not, there are many scientific sites that you can google which are saying most if not all beaches will have gone by 2100.

Gravity binds us. It means gasses produced in the US or China are trapped across the whole globe. It means if a rainforest is cut down, oxygen and rain is affected for the whole world.

I’m not sure, but it seems that they are maybe trying to suggest that climate change will cause supervollcanoes to erupt.

The unfortunate thing with engaging with conspiracy theorists is that they’ll rarely spell out what they are trying to say, so you’re left trying to pick it out.

So now you accept that your claim was ridiculous?

And no, there are no scientific sites saying that we’ll have no beaches by 2100. And even if there were, 2100 is not 25 years away.

Do you not think before just spouting this stuff?

The Gulf Stream will shut off in a few years, that might be interesting.

I hear this being said but I don’t a hundred percent understand it. The Gulf Stream is what wafts warm air around? So if it stops we will become extremely cold?

And?
If you believe global warming is to blame, do your bit but recognise countries such as China, India etc pollute so much you driving a Tesla, not flying and going vegan isn’t going to do much.

There have always been disasters, just because we have tech, science and arrogance doesn't mean we can control the world anymore than people in Pompeii years ago or the mammoths from the ice age.

Why should the earth stay the same? Humans are a blip in time and will die off eventually by war, climate change or an asteroid. Good riddance I say!

Just remember OP that not all 'news' is equal. Anyone can start a blog, online paper, YouTube channel - it doesn't mean their information is researched or factual.

What would 'not sleep walking' look like to you?

You're not wrong. But there are many vested interests peddling the 'meh what about China and India' line. That's all they have now there's no denying the change is happening.

If developed countries went hell for leather in reducing carbon and banded together to find a way to penalise those who didn't do the same with sanctions etc, combined with support to develop in a low carbon way - we could do it. Or at least have a decent shot.

But that would take humans being selfless and cooperative, whereas the world is run by rich selfish people.

It's incredibly bleak and tbh makes me feel guilty for having had children.

Taking this line requires you to be unbothered by human or animal suffering. It's one thing saying good riddance, another to say let's have a few generations of children starve.