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Mrsjayy · 29/09/2023 21:46

RafaistheKingofClay · 29/09/2023 20:47

Fallen for all the conspiracy theories.

anti vax
climate change denialism
covid denialism
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I've been reading I had no.idea I just see his history programmes or I have seen him walking down the road 😳

cakeorwine · 29/09/2023 22:19

RafaistheKingofClay · 29/09/2023 20:47

Fallen for all the conspiracy theories.

anti vax
climate change denialism
covid denialism
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I find it quite interesting that people who deny Covid and are anti-vax are also often the people who have strong views about climate change, etc

I wonder if you get people who have fallen for 1 conspiracy theory but not others and who look in amazement at people who have fallen for it.

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Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 22:20

Or maybe they're just critical thinkers and you're not. Tbh I've never met anyone b who doesn't believe in Covid, think that's a myth.

cakeorwine · 29/09/2023 22:28

Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 22:20

Or maybe they're just critical thinkers and you're not. Tbh I've never met anyone b who doesn't believe in Covid, think that's a myth.

Critical thinkers?

A critical thinker would think critically before talking about some of the stuff they talk about and realise that they often don't have the expertise to give an opinion on the science they dismiss.

But there will always be an audience who wants to hear it. Even if they don't want to fact check it.

Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 22:38

No idea who this "they" is that you're talking about is. Plenty of top scientists were against lockdown (great Barrington declaration) and were shut down by the govt and their media puppets. Ditto the other issues. As I've said there's no such thing as Covid denial. If you have lost trust in the media you tend to look at all their outpourings critically. If you're taking about Neil Oliver he is no less qualified than the "journalists" on the BBC/ITV etc.

Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 22:41

Here is the BBCs climate editorhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Rowlatt Turned out he studied PPE like alot of the incompetents in westminster. Hardly a science expert.

Justin Rowlatt - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Rowlatt

newnamethanks · 29/09/2023 22:49

Who is the Gross Bigots News climate editor? Bring him on and we'll have some critical thought comparing the two.

Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 22:58

Why don't you do your own research. I've given you the Biased Boring Crap one.

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/09/2023 23:15

cakeorwine · 29/09/2023 22:19

I find it quite interesting that people who deny Covid and are anti-vax are also often the people who have strong views about climate change, etc

I wonder if you get people who have fallen for 1 conspiracy theory but not others and who look in amazement at people who have fallen for it.

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It's all part of the same shit to distract and divide. Make them afraid of others just like them and lie about real threats.

newnamethanks · 29/09/2023 23:25

Tsk. Not up to it then? Well, I'm shocked. Good luck with the critical thinking although if you lack comparators you may find that a bit difficult. Never mind. Bias not brains works well for many.

Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 23:30

No arguing with closed minds like yours Im afraid. You carry on believing everything you're told by the BBC and don't read more widely. I'm lucky that I've had plenty of time in the last few years to do this, I realise most don't have that luxury and have no choice but to lap up the stuff on the BBC so I'm not blaming you.

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/09/2023 23:34

Critical thinkers check out who's providing the information, ask why they're presenting it in a certain way and explore to find other views and whatever other news is happening but not being reported.

Critical and elementary thinkers know GB News has a right wing bias.😂😂😂

CakeInAJar · 29/09/2023 23:39

Poor, poor Billie. Imagine that being the father to your children

Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 23:42

Each to their own. I don't really care what some random on mumsnet think, just object to the pile on from other news channels using this as a pretext to close down a rival channel when they've done alot worse. The hypocrisy is astounding. 🙄

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/09/2023 23:48

Those pile-ons happen regularly in the media. You can't have missed the Philip Schofield and Huw Edwards hoohaas on GB News @Coveescapee? GB News, The Mail etc are forever calling for the BBC to be defunded.🙄

Coveescapee · 29/09/2023 23:53

No they don't happen in the same way. There were no calls to close ITV after the schofield debacle or BBC re Huw Edwards. Defunding BBC just means making subscription like Netflix etc. There are alot of people in the media world who want to actually close GB News and indeed Adam Boultin and a few others have called for this. There is alot of irrational hate for them, you only have to look on this thread to see that.

newnamethanks · 30/09/2023 00:01

It is not irrational hate. It is a perfectly reasonable response to the peddlers of irrational misinformation and hate disguised as a 'reputable' news provider. If you choose to see it as something else then that is your misfortune that, happily, the majority of people do notq share.

Coveescapee · 30/09/2023 00:05

Very arrogant to think you know what the majority think. You probably thought remain world win too based on your mates. I happen to think BBC broadcasts irrational misinformation which is why I don't pay for tv licence anymore. So what? I don't want to close them down.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/09/2023 00:27

I don't want GB News shut down. I just don't think it should be able to call itself a News channel.

It isn't. It's a right wing opinion channel.🤷‍♀️

pintery · 30/09/2023 07:17

I think the fact that GBN knew what he was going to say is key here. Same as the BBC and RB.

I agree it's key, but if you're talking about the Andrew Sachs thing, it's not the same. The BBC didn't know what he was going to say, plus the real problem was the show was pre-recorded but nobody listened to it before it went out. They brought in a whole load of compliance procedures after that, all pre-recorded programmes had to be listened to and signed off by two people before transmission.

wincarwoo · 30/09/2023 07:40

Coveescapee · 30/09/2023 00:05

Very arrogant to think you know what the majority think. You probably thought remain world win too based on your mates. I happen to think BBC broadcasts irrational misinformation which is why I don't pay for tv licence anymore. So what? I don't want to close them down.

The margin on the Brexit vote was very small. It was hardly a landslide.

Greenberg2 · 30/09/2023 08:14

wincarwoo · 30/09/2023 07:40

The margin on the Brexit vote was very small. It was hardly a landslide.

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It was also based on a lot of lies and many people admit they wouldn't have voted for Brexit if they'd known they'd been misled.

Also people are calling on the BBC to be torn down all the time. There is a way more concerted campaign against the BBC than any campaign against GB News.

Coveescapee · 30/09/2023 08:44

No as I said being defunded is not the same as being cancelled. The BBC had far too much power based on prior reputation. Remain also based on lies. All elections are based on lies. The politicians have already started lying for the next election. I have no idea why people think Leave was unique. So what?

cakeorwine · 30/09/2023 08:48

I do wonder where Fox will turn up next?

Will he just be an angry person on Twitter simultaneously defending women's rights and also getting annoyed with women and demonstrating his mysogyny?