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How many hours a week do you work?

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itsallaboutthedollar · 18/09/2023 21:52

Just this. How many hours a week do you work?

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SeptemberSuns · 21/09/2023 12:18

ScotchPine · 21/09/2023 10:02

I don’t think anyone is attacking you. When you accuse people, including individual posters, of lying, you can expect some pushback. People have just responded to you with reasoned arguments and evidence to refute your “people in many professions work hard, I just don’t think teachers do” statements. Especially because it’s a profession with a recruitment and retention crisis and thousands of people suffering mental and physical burnout. The things you have said are really damaging to those people, so they deserve to be challenged.

Disclaimer - I’ll say it again, teaching is of course not the only profession where working conditions are a serious issue. The internet is awash with accounts by lawyers, social workers, NHS staff and many more working unsustainably. All of those conversations need to be had.

Please see @GinJeanie 's comment above, accusing me of gaslighting - this is what I'm referring to specifically.

ScotchPine · 21/09/2023 13:18

SeptemberSuns · 21/09/2023 12:18

Please see @GinJeanie 's comment above, accusing me of gaslighting - this is what I'm referring to specifically.

Well, you are trying to recast people’s experiences of being pushed to physical and emotional breaking point and the serious endemic
issues of a profession as ‘whinging and moaning for no reason’ and accusing people talking about their personal experiences of making it all up.

cocksstrideintheevening · 21/09/2023 13:22

Contracted 37.5

reality is some weeks can be 20 some weeks 70

Crunchymum · 21/09/2023 13:23

Contracted to 21 hours. Usually work closer to 23 hours.

I work my other job (single mum to 3 children, youngest who is disabled) around my work hours 🙃

AlltheFs · 21/09/2023 13:26

30 over 4 days. Full time is 37.

popandchoc · 21/09/2023 13:26

28 officially , prob more like 33.

waterlego · 21/09/2023 13:29

Contracted for 17 but often do a few extra hours a week. Never more than 22 I reckon.

KeepSmiling89 · 21/09/2023 13:31

37.5 - working in the NHS as a Speech and Language Therapist

ArcticLingered · 21/09/2023 13:43

All of them

...but I have plenty of colleagues who barely work half of them...

SeptemberSuns · 21/09/2023 15:00

@ScotchPine

And I'm just correcting you!

It's my experience and opinion. I'm allowed to express that, or would you stop any talk that teachers would disagree with? I don't have to agree with you, just as you don't with me.

iatealltheminieggs · 21/09/2023 15:05

Between 16 and 24 depending on overtime. Across 4 days to enable school runs.

PureAmazonian · 21/09/2023 15:55

Just back off maternity and I'm working 24 hours a week, with the occasional extra 12 hour shift. I used to work 55-60 hours before I had my dc!

Oblomov23 · 21/09/2023 16:44

30
4 days. Perfect.

ScotchPine · 21/09/2023 17:51

SeptemberSuns · 21/09/2023 15:00

@ScotchPine

And I'm just correcting you!

It's my experience and opinion. I'm allowed to express that, or would you stop any talk that teachers would disagree with? I don't have to agree with you, just as you don't with me.

No one is stopping you talking, you’re still going after all, but of course people are going to disagree with such ludicrous general statements as “teachers don’t work hard at all”, “all their problems are caused by whinging and moaning” and “they ALL leave the profession to find they can’t cope in other jobs”. The last one in particular is demonstrably false and myriad articles have been written about the causes of poor working conditions in education. Teachers moaning was not one of them. Staff shortages fuelled by the retention crisis, academisation, ‘managing out’ more experienced/expensive staff, to name but a few, are all driving unsustainable working conditions.

You seem to have a prejudice against the teaching profession, as you’re more than willing to
acknowledge the issues for other roles such as lawyers, medics etc. I think this conversation is actually a live demonstration of the prejudices teachers face. The initial poster didn’t actually complain about their hours, just stated them, but they were immediately jumped on and accused of exaggeration.

BlueYazoo · 21/09/2023 18:49

Contracted to do 35.

Do 35

SeptemberSuns · 22/09/2023 08:18

@ScotchPine I'm only "going on" as you so eloquently put because you keep attacking with your long posts! If you want to stop please just stop responding. You're in danger of entering into a personal attack.

It has been demonstrated that 80 hours a week simply isn't true and yet another example of teachers wildly exaggerating how hard their work is and how many false hours they work.

You compared lawyers to teachers. To me there is no comparison. A lawyer is more highly trained, more highly regarded by most, and rarely do we see them on strike, on inset days, on vast swathes of holiday, whilst moaning continuously about how hard they work.

I am neither a teacher nor a lawyer but I do work long full-time hours with 20 days (plus BH) holiday a year. I have never posted on Facebook how exhausted I am after working for 6 weeks in a row and how grateful I am for a week off (because I rarely have a full week at a time). I am paid well, I enjoy my job and any gripes I have I usually keep to myself as no-one is interested. Teachers take note. No-one cares that you've done a WHOLE TERM! No one is going to give you a standing ovation for doing your job for six weeks without a break!

I strongly disagree with you, as is my right to but I also understand it's your right to have your opinion and I'm not trying to stop you having that.

I'm stopping here as I think I've made my point and I need to get on with my job!

ScotchPine · 22/09/2023 08:52

SeptemberSuns · 22/09/2023 08:18

@ScotchPine I'm only "going on" as you so eloquently put because you keep attacking with your long posts! If you want to stop please just stop responding. You're in danger of entering into a personal attack.

It has been demonstrated that 80 hours a week simply isn't true and yet another example of teachers wildly exaggerating how hard their work is and how many false hours they work.

You compared lawyers to teachers. To me there is no comparison. A lawyer is more highly trained, more highly regarded by most, and rarely do we see them on strike, on inset days, on vast swathes of holiday, whilst moaning continuously about how hard they work.

I am neither a teacher nor a lawyer but I do work long full-time hours with 20 days (plus BH) holiday a year. I have never posted on Facebook how exhausted I am after working for 6 weeks in a row and how grateful I am for a week off (because I rarely have a full week at a time). I am paid well, I enjoy my job and any gripes I have I usually keep to myself as no-one is interested. Teachers take note. No-one cares that you've done a WHOLE TERM! No one is going to give you a standing ovation for doing your job for six weeks without a break!

I strongly disagree with you, as is my right to but I also understand it's your right to have your opinion and I'm not trying to stop you having that.

I'm stopping here as I think I've made my point and I need to get on with my job!

I’ve refuted your arguments with a lot more kindness than you have shown to the teachers you have repeatedly and ‘so eloquently’ denigrated as moaners and liars. You haven’t demonstrated that anything that has been said is untrue beyond “I just don’t believe it”.

Your beliefs about the relative expertise and merits of the professions are irrelevant. The point is about working conditions. A quick google search will bring up many articles by lawyers decrying their working conditions. To the extent that a charity has been established to support them with their well-being. GPs are also criticised for complaining about their working hours because so many work part time on a good salary. As with teacher holidays (which are admittedly a perk) that doesn’t negate the impact on their wellbeing, especially because of the impact on their patients. NHS workers strike much in the same way teachers do - pay AND conditions - including the impact on the community they serve.

Great that you enjoy your job despite the long hours. Yes, you’re entitled to hold those views but I hope you can find it in your heart to reflect on the actual evidence I’ve provided you with as to why so many teachers are struggling, as what you’ve said is very harmful. We will
leave the conversation there.

ScotchPine · 22/09/2023 09:45

Batatahara · 19/09/2023 08:34

@ScotchPine but this just illustrates the point - you're rounding up at every point - 9-11/12 has become 3 hours every time for your calculation. And still only "approaching" 80, that's what makes the PP's post frankly unbelievable.

No one is saying it's not hard work, just that 80 is someone exaggerating - quite possibly unconsciously but still exaggerating

Edited

This is not to have a go at you at all, but I hope the conversations here have shown that many people sadly DO say that teaching is not hard work. And how harmful that is to the many people who have burnt out in the profession and suffered ongoing physical and mental health problems 😞

Fantapops · 22/09/2023 09:56

Full time university. It's a healthcare degree so 35hrs per week during theory blocks, 45hrs per week during placement blocks, and 10 weeks off per year.

I also work relief staff shifts, usually two per week which can be anything from 8hrs to 12hrs per shift. So 16-24hrs paid work.

Soooo... 51-59 hours during theory blocks? And 61-69 hours during placement. I tend to pick up relief during the university holidays, usually 3-4 shifts per week.

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