Lucy Letby appeal

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Sorry if not allowed to discuss here but just seem that this vile creature plans to appeal against her original sentence as per yesterday’s news. Her defence team is leading this potential appeal.

WTAF?!

They haven’t reached a verdict on is it 6 or 7 poor other little babies who died and she’s suspected, I thought?

So sad for the poor parents and babies still.

It was to be expected.

I agree. If they did it, they shouldn’t be allowed to appeal. disgusting.

Why are people so against the justice system?

She will be consumed with being 'the victim' because she is a psychopath.

How does she fund an appeal? Is she eligible for legal aid?

What sort of person would agree to help he fight her conviction

I’m not!

But surely the evidence against her is substantial and beyond all reasonable doubt?

You’ve said exactly what I wanted to say!

I hope the British tax payer isn’t expected to fund her appeal.

but that’s what the legal system is there to decide!?

She's spending the rest of her life behind bars.

She'll need to be doing something - especially to keep herself in the limelight.

I also read there is a deadline of 25th September to decide if they will retrial for the 6 non verdicts.

But appealing isn't just possible because you don't agree with being found guilty. She'll need a point of law or new evidence. Or appeal about the sentence.

But she has 14 whole life orders. That's 14 convictions to have overturned. Even if she could prove for a few that evidence was incorrect or points of law weren't followed 1 life order is enough to keep her banged up for life.

Unless some really strong evidence comes to light she'll remain behind bars for life.

It's the families and the consultants who tried to whistleblow I have empathy for.

It's just the process.

If you were innocent, wouldn't you appeal it?

If you were guilty and facing a whole life sentence, wouldn't you appeal it - what do you have to lose, after all?

I'd want the right to appeal. If we want that for ourselves, we have to support it for everybody.

That's what the appeal is for.

The defence need to argue that either they have evidence that wasn't considered, or some point of legal process or application of tgd law that has been misapplied in order to appeal.

I agree. Monsters like Letby shouldn’t be allowed appeals.

I think they should’ve chucked away the key as soon as they found out she did it. This would have saved the cost of the first trial too.

the lawyers who defended her should be struck off. How could they?

Some of the comments on here are beyond ridiculous. Do people actually think there shouldn't be a right of appeal? Would you want the right of appeal for yourself?!? As for saying there shouldn't be legal aid (if not for this then what would it be for?!?) or lawyers should be struck off there are no words

All I can think is it proves some basic teaching of the legal system should be in the national curriculum

Whether you like it or not everyone’s entitled to an appeal. Everyone has a right to a fair trial, and also a fair re consideration. That’s how this country works.

Literally every word of this is nonsense. Everyone, EVERYONE has the right to due process, a good, effective defence and an appeal if there are grounds.

Because variously through history the public has been stupid, racist, sexist, homophobic and led down the garden path by idiots. The process, as far as humanly possible, should be transparent, fair and unemotional.

The whole point is that everyone, even monsters, is entitled to the same process. Because if they are, we all are. And we should be very glad of that.

It's not surprising. It was expected she would appeal.
Hyperbolic, overly emotional threads on social media don't help the babies' families OP. If you really care about them, you'd ask for this to be deleted. There's something very distasteful about ott frothing about the justice system working exactly as it should.

She has the right to ask for an appeal. Whether it gets anywhere is another matter - 99.99% of appeals get absolutely nowhere.

This is a non-event.

So she shouldn't appeal just because the public don't want her too? I don't think the legal system works by public opinion just yet

Indeed. I always read those kinds of comments and think people never do realise that they too, or someone they love or even just a random entirely innocent person could have their whole lives destroyed by a wrongful guilty verdict. As for Letby, I think she's guilty as sin, but she is entitled to appeal and to sustain a functioning justice system then that's that.

I had hoped that ‘they should have chucked away the key before the first trial’ would’ve made it clear I was taking the piss. Apologies if not.

but honestly, there’s no point explaining over and over that we need due process, that the lawyers aren’t as bad as the defendants etc. as some people don’t want to understand. They just want something to froth over.

Oops @thedancingbear clearly life has become parody so effectively that I didn't read your tone.

<slinks off>

THIS x 1000

But the system doesn't always get it right. There will have been lots of seemingly cut and dry cases where everyone was convinced they did it, which later turns out they didn't. So if we denied appeal, innocent people would still be convicted.

If she appeals and is found guilty, fine. If she appeals and the outcome changes, also fine. We cannot pick and choose who we allow to appeal.

OP, if the evidence against her is as clear as you seem to think, why did it take the jury 110 hours to reach a verdict?