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9/11 - what happened to the planes?

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myyve · 12/09/2023 11:48

Thinking on from that awful day after the anniversary yesterday, one thought has come to mind.

What happened to the planes and those onboard, once they were flown into the twin towers? I know this probably does sound silly and I'm so sorry if it comes across as ignorant, but I truly do not know, and the internet doesn't mention anything, either..

Did they come to a crash landing afterwards? Or did they continue flying? What actually happened to the plane and those poor souls on board?

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butterpuffed · 12/09/2023 17:53

myyve · 12/09/2023 16:30

Shame I had to see that comment before MNHQ deleted it. wish I hadn't.

It's kind of confirmed to me I'm in the wrong field here. It's all been a rough learning curve.

Please ignore the negative posters , they seem to take pleasure in being spiteful . You carry on with your research , it's early days 😊

Westpoint · 12/09/2023 17:56

AbbeyGailsParty · 12/09/2023 13:39

Are you asking what happened to the planes’ fabric and structure?
As they hit a structure ( building or ground) obviously most of the plane would break up. Fuel would cause a fire. As we know, all passengers and crews died on impact, killed either by the impact or the ensuing fires.
All the debris of the Twin Towers and the planes was removed and would all have been sifted through very carefully. Any personal effects that survived would have been identified and returned to nok where possible. Bodies were identified by DNA, dental records, personal effects worn etc so their nok could arrange funerals.
What happened to the debris of the planes and unidentifiable effects I don’t know, perhaps landfill somewhere? Stored on a military facility in case further evidence is ever looked for in the future?

There is a repository at the 9/11 museum for unidentified and unclaimed remains.

You can read about it here - https://www.911memorial.org/connect/911-family-members/ocme-repository

I had no idea it was there until I took a museum tour last week and it was my second visit!

OCME Repository at the World Trade Center | National September 11 Memorial & Museum

https://www.911memorial.org/connect/911-family-members/ocme-repository

tokennamechange · 12/09/2023 17:59

Highdaysandholidays1 · 12/09/2023 12:45

I don't know why everyone is having a go at the OP. The answer isn't self-evident for all the planes at all, at least one did land! A few people also survived the collapse of the Twin Towers even though the vast majority died.

So, all those mocking her are quite incorrect.

As for the motivation of this thread, unsure, but I'm unsure everyone is replying from a good-hearted place either, it's a nice excuse for a kicking more like.

People are answering about the 2 planes that flew into the twin towers and not the other 2 planes because OP asked specifically about those!

Literally only 18 people above the impact zone in the south tower survived, and none in the north tower, and you think people actually on the planes survived???? What on earth are you on?

Or are you saying some people working within the WTC survived, which, yes, of course they did but has nothing to do with what she asked - and actually you're wrong again, about 35000 people worked there, approx 2600 died (with the other deaths being the hijackers and various emergency services) so the vast majority did survive.

You're having a go at other people for their answers when you're given incorrect information to completely different questions, which weren't even asked!

Breakawaytour · 12/09/2023 18:04

Evan Davies the PM presenter, has just asked someone from Westonbirt Arboretum 'what actually is Autumn' on R4. The guy was polite enough to explain in simple terms. Good on him, bet he'd get annihilated if he'd asked on here.

PenLidsOnTheFloor · 12/09/2023 18:05

I think one thing that is clear from this thread is that lots of people don’t know the correct information. Despite all having access to Google.

So the OPs question isn’t stupid at all.

EbiRaisukaree · 12/09/2023 18:18

PenLidsOnTheFloor · 12/09/2023 18:05

I think one thing that is clear from this thread is that lots of people don’t know the correct information. Despite all having access to Google.

So the OPs question isn’t stupid at all.

That isn’t the point, though. The OP is researching for a study paper. Mumsnet is not a reliable source to inform an academic project, at any level. She needs to be looking at reliable, citeable sources of primary evidence and secondary sources with backed-up discussion. Not the reckonings of a random group of people on a social media forum. That’s the daft bit, not the question or the need to ask it.

FitAt50 · 12/09/2023 18:36

PenLidsOnTheFloor · 12/09/2023 18:05

I think one thing that is clear from this thread is that lots of people don’t know the correct information. Despite all having access to Google.

So the OPs question isn’t stupid at all.

"Did they carry on flying" enough said.

Nanaof1 · 12/09/2023 18:41

littlemousebigcheese · 12/09/2023 12:05

God, just ignore everyone who seems to know everything without ever having to ask a question. How do we learn if we don't question things? It's a decent question I think, I hadn't really thought about the planes to be honest as so much focus was on the buildings. I remember people asking about the titanic sub that imploded and suddenly everyone was a structural engineer and was scathing at anyone who dared ask anything. It's a nasty habit to discourage learning and act like people are stupid for not knowing things you know

The difference here is that anywhere, with ten seconds of using Google, you can watch, in detail, what happened to three of the four planes. No one SAW the Titanic sub implode. Not true with 911. Everyone who wanted to and thousands who did not, watched planes crash into buildings and not come out the other side, or have people from the plane removing their seat belts and wandering around. They watched, in abject horror and sorrow as hundreds, above the level of impact, chose to jump from the building rather than burn to a crisp. The firemen in the North Tower got to listen as bodies fell, one after another and hit the roof of the lobby. The world got to hear the firemen's distress beepers going off after the towers fell and rescue workers looked at the five-story-high field of debris, knowing their brothers and sisters lay within.

The "fact" that the OP says the internet doesn't mention what happened to the planes and where they went afterward and the fate of the passengers, gives me the feeling that they either didn't look or is attempting to get people upset. No one can be that clueless.

They succeeded in their goal nonetheless.

Nanaof1 · 12/09/2023 18:46

FitAt50 · 12/09/2023 18:36

"Did they carry on flying" enough said.

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The follow-up poster who said, "one plane landed" did it for me.

Frequency · 12/09/2023 18:59

The results OP got when she Googled would depend upon what she typed into Google. I typed "what happened planes 9/11" and the first couple of results were about the increased security after 9/11.

JanesBlond · 12/09/2023 19:18

EbiRaisukaree · 12/09/2023 18:18

That isn’t the point, though. The OP is researching for a study paper. Mumsnet is not a reliable source to inform an academic project, at any level. She needs to be looking at reliable, citeable sources of primary evidence and secondary sources with backed-up discussion. Not the reckonings of a random group of people on a social media forum. That’s the daft bit, not the question or the need to ask it.

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I don’t think OP is asking here for answers to put into her paper, just for someone to explain things to her for her own understanding.

Nanaof1 · 12/09/2023 19:23

Frequency · 12/09/2023 18:59

The results OP got when she Googled would depend upon what she typed into Google. I typed "what happened planes 9/11" and the first couple of results were about the increased security after 9/11.

I typed "what happened to the planes after they hit the World Trade Center" and this came up. Shows pretty clearly that only debris came out of the building. It's a somewhat new video.

Kevin Westley's new 9/11 2nd plane angle - Synced with Michael Hezarkhani's video

A new angle shows United Airlines Flight 175 flying above a crowd of people watching in horror how the plane is heading right into the south tip of the islan...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKO8w-xOp9g

usernother · 12/09/2023 19:27

This post is no worse than people who post stuff like 'I've just eaten something that was 3 days past the use by date. Should I go to a GP' and questions like that. The answer might be easy to find online but sometimes it's easier to ask someone. They don't get ripped to bits on here. In this case the OP was hoping for some info from people who might have been around at the time or who knew more than her. And that's it. It doesn't matter.

Nanaof1 · 12/09/2023 19:38

theDudesmummy · 12/09/2023 16:02

It's odd that there seems to be a bit of a "Mandela effect" of more than one person on this thread believing that United 93 landed "safely" somewhere. I wonder how that came about, given the nature of what actually happened?

Thank you. I have wondered what people are talking about when they say "one landed". I don't consider nose first into a field as a landing.

MisterT373 · 12/09/2023 19:40

Thr WTC had long been earmarked as a terrorist target. In 1993 a truck bomb was detonated in am underground car park under the North tower, with the plan being to collapse the North Tower into the South Tower.

As for 9/11 the aim was to fly the planes into the lowest point possible knowing that by structurally weakening the buildings they wouldn't be able to support the floors above them.

If there was one mercy on that day it was that the planes flew into the upper floors of both towers giving more people time to escape before they fell. If the planes had hit lower than the death toll would have been many times greater.

willWillSmithsmith · 12/09/2023 19:47

myrtleWilson · 12/09/2023 14:47

@willWillSmithsmith There are people from all walks of life, with a vast array of careers on here - why specifically would engineers be too busy?

I see that the LucyLetbytruther movement have joined the thread with usual robust theories...

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I didn’t see other careers mentioned. So I suspect brain surgeons, train drivers and shop keepers might also be too busy 🤷‍♀️

MeinKraft · 12/09/2023 19:54

@myyve stop apologising for asking a question and definitely don't give up your course because of a few arseholes on mumsnet! I found the question, and the thread, interesting so thank you for asking it.

Obviously your uni or college thinks you're qualified to study engineering or you wouldn't have been accepted onto the course. MN is full of people who think they know the answer to everything.

MonicaPluto · 12/09/2023 19:58

EbiRaisukaree · 12/09/2023 18:18

That isn’t the point, though. The OP is researching for a study paper. Mumsnet is not a reliable source to inform an academic project, at any level. She needs to be looking at reliable, citeable sources of primary evidence and secondary sources with backed-up discussion. Not the reckonings of a random group of people on a social media forum. That’s the daft bit, not the question or the need to ask it.

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She was trying to find the answer to that particular question and so she quickly asked on here.

It's very normal to do more casual research first and then go onto google scholar etc and get the proper references after.

She was probably wasting lots of time trying to find out the answer, so asked on here, that's all. I'm sure she then would have completed the assignment following the assignment requirements.

Allthestories · 12/09/2023 20:02

MonicaPluto · 12/09/2023 19:58

She was trying to find the answer to that particular question and so she quickly asked on here.

It's very normal to do more casual research first and then go onto google scholar etc and get the proper references after.

She was probably wasting lots of time trying to find out the answer, so asked on here, that's all. I'm sure she then would have completed the assignment following the assignment requirements.

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I totally agree! Sometimes mumsnetters are golden for being able to offer good links or reading material. I didn't know what happened to the planes either. There is so much info out there it's hard to sift through it.

Breakawaytour · 12/09/2023 20:23

Nanaof1 · 12/09/2023 19:23

I typed "what happened to the planes after they hit the World Trade Center" and this came up. Shows pretty clearly that only debris came out of the building. It's a somewhat new video.

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Tbf this awful footage shows the plane going in, you can't see what happened behind the tower or immediately afterwards though. There's part of me that thinks it was going so fast maybe it would shoot through the building and emerge (on fire and totally wrecked) out of the other side.

rainbowunicorn · 12/09/2023 20:46

Lysianthus · 12/09/2023 16:07

Apologies, i thought you said you we were 2 at the time.

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It was 22 years ago

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 12/09/2023 20:56

myyve · 12/09/2023 16:06

I am not 21, and I've never said that I am.

I am genuinely asking a question I don't know the answer to. I've apologised so many times, I don't know what else I can say.

You said you were 2 in 2001

rainbowunicorn · 12/09/2023 21:03

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 12/09/2023 20:56

You said you were 2 in 2001

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2001 was 22 years ago. 2 plus 22 is 24.

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