9/11 - what happened to the planes?

[myyve]

Thinking on from that awful day after the anniversary yesterday, one thought has come to mind.

What happened to the planes and those onboard, once they were flown into the twin towers? I know this probably does sound silly and I'm so sorry if it comes across as ignorant, but I truly do not know, and the internet doesn't mention anything, either..

Did they come to a crash landing afterwards? Or did they continue flying? What actually happened to the plane and those poor souls on board?

It’s very poor form to deliberately misquote the OP.

The twin tower planes disintegrated on impact. Nothing much was left but debris.

Two planes hit the Twin Towers and exploded on contact. The third
crashed into the Pentagon and the fourth crashed in a field after the passengers overpowered the hi-jackers. It's thought that plane was destined to crash into the White House

THIS.

If I had a pound for every time someone has broken something at work by blindly copying instructions they found on Google, I wouldn't have a mortgage any more.

Hi @myyve it can be a little tricky to find the original footage as stand alone recordings as most have been made into documentaries.

I recommend watching the Naudet footage which is the only known video of the first plane. You can see the impact of the plane for yourself.

Secondly most people including myself saw the day play out on the news but as you were two, I understand your questions.
This news report shows exactly what we saw at the time

Finally there were plane parts found blocks away from the buildings so some parts did scatter quite far away. Here

The day was and always will be seared into my memory! I was up the south tower in April 2001 and it’s frightening to think about how high up those people were.

Not an idiot.

The problem is this is a damn sensitive topic for Americans and you must realise as things panned out literally millions watched mass murder and there are probably is a degree of psychological scarring even for those watching on TV.

The world trade centre memorial is truly sombre and you can't help think of those in the buildings and planes.

You will therefore get an emotional response on this thread yet I suppose it is a genuine question.

Village idiot comment "I don't need to turn off my computer just because we're at 10,000 feet - how stupid, its obvious they are just trying to control me and make their job easier." Plane plunges 8000 vertical feet when the "save" button is activated sending electrical surge to wing junction box activating thrust reversers mid-flight.
Or better yet, pre-1954 when ALL plane manufacturers made passenger aircraft with square windows until the crash (McDonnell Douglas) that highlighted square windows put all the force in the corners causing cracks which propogated until the plane literally fell apart - Boeing, McD, Fokker, etc ALL sent engineers and learned to make windows oval despite "common knowledge that square windows were fine."

There were certainly some bits of landing gear and engine found at/around the site (as per some PPs)…such components may well have had part numbers/serial numbers marked on them (often on a small plate, sometimes engraved) that could have been tracked back to the individual airframes via maintenance records.

It's interesting that such a question from a young person has brought up strength of feeling.

9/11 is part of history and for many within living memory. I know for many Americans there is still a sense of anger and the event directly or indirectly lead to 2 wars.

Please do not give up on your course but please do find out information from official sources. If you ever visit the US you will still find the wounds.

I scratched my eyeball when I was 15 and it was still sore days later so my mum took me to the GP (in the 90s when you could usually get an appointment that week).

The newly qualified GP looked in my eye and then said “ooh, you’ve got a little pin prick on the lower lid, has it been there a while?” Then she looked at my other eye and looked shocked and said “oh! There’s one there too!” She excused herself and left the room, then came back 2 minutes later and told me they were my tear ducts 😬😂

Its had an estimated 10,000+ passengers with a LOSS of OVER 9,000.

It got bum rushed and had to be pulled back and delayed but since there was panic, no official passenger list and many refugee orphans its impossible to say.

Apart from the staff and the men that rushed it (as men where not admitted) their was on average 6 children to every woman evacuated... the majority of the ship was children.

Its still the highest death toll from a ship sinking anywhere in the world.

9k+ died on Wilhelm... to compare 1.5k died on Titanic.

WTF .

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Yes and?

That's a very common thing that people will say before they ask a question. They will express their ignorance on a topic in advance.

Have you never had conversations with people in real life? Because normally people just answer the question politely if they know the answer.

They don't go on and on bashing them and recommending brain training games and telling them if they don't know the answer to something they're ignorant about that they shouldn't ask anyone.

Again, aeronautics is not my specialism, but I do know that many many aircraft parts have individual serial numbers and the serial numbers are recorded during build and on replacement.

Cars, which I know a little more about, are built similarly with serial numbered parts that are logged during build. It means that if several parts from the same batch fail, the manufacturer can determine the VIN of each affected vehicle to recall all vehicles that were built with that batch's part.

In rock climbing and aerial circus performance, the carabiners used to hold harnesses to ropes and trapezes/cordes lisse/etc to rigging point have individual serial numbers. Again, for traceability, but also so you can be sure that the old one was actually removed by checking the numbers in the log book.

I get "I'm sorry to bother you, this is probably a really stupid question but..." all the time at work, usually from women because we are trained from birth to put ourselves down. And it's usually a perfectly reasonable question. It's the blokes who act entitled to my time and ask for stuff that's in the knowledge base if they only bothered to check it.

The OP was giving the standard "imposter syndrome" nervous woman script and you hold that against her? How low can you go?

Do not be deterred from your course. Take this as a lesson learnt that you need to work on sourcing your information. There are literally thousands upon thousands of news articles, video footage, and documentaries (there are lots that focus on the structural and engineering angle but you will need to learn to vet your sources as credible).
Are there any additional short courses you can take on navigating the internet and fact checking?

Idk if it’s already been pointed out but it should be stated just how significant the revolt by the passengers on the fourth plane was: not a random incident but an act of civilian heroism that saved many lives.

The passengers became aware of what had happened to the other planes, and realised that their plane was going to be used for the same purpose, as a weapon, to crash into a building and kill/maim as many people as possible.

There was nothing they could do to land the plane safely and I they must have known they themselves wouldn’t survive, but they nonetheless fought with the terrorists to take back some control so that the plane crashed into a field instead of its intended target (the White House?) and only they were killed, no one else.

It’s almost unbearably moving to think of them knowing their lives were about to end but doing all they could to save others anyway. Real courage.

Flight 93 did not arrive at the hijackers' intended target - the Nation's Capital - because of the selfless and courageous actions of the 40 passenger and crew members on board. When Flight 93 was hijacked, the passengers and crew members used airfones on the plane to contact the authorities and their loved ones.

A total of 13 passengers made 37 phone calls. Through their phone conversations, they learned of the first two attacks, and subsequently took quick action. Pushed to the back of the plane by hijackers, the passengers and crew took a vote – and decided to fight back to try and regain control of their airplane.

As a result of phone calls made from on board Flight 93 and from the cockpit voice recorder recovered at the crash site, we learn of the struggle the passengers and crew members had with their hijackers which began in the skies over Western Pennsylvania, and ended with the high-speed crash of the plane in a reclaimed strip mine near Shanksville, just 18 minutes flying time from Washington, DC. Countless lives were spared thanks to their heroic actions, but all on board Flight 93 were lost.

https://www.flight93friends.org/flight-93-story

😂

I went to the doctor decades ago and he looked up the pill I was taking in his medical dictionary thing. It took him a good minute or two to realise he was looking at the book upside down…

I highly recommend reading Fall and Rise by Mitchell Zuckoff.

Still gobsmacked anyone could be in any doubt as to what would happen to a plane when it’s flown at great speed into a massive building.

Not because of any lack in research skills, more of basic common sense/understanding of how the physical world works.

The lines between make believe and reality do seem to be very blurred for a lot of people these days.

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particularly if the whole thing was filmed in high quality and is easily and freely available today. Although OP doesn't seem to have heard of TV or youtube given she's literally said 'I was 2 so didn't see the footage.'🙄

Nobody knows everything and there are lots of things about 9/11 and anything else you could absolutely get interesting/better answers from crowd sourcing, but it is ridiculous to say " I just couldn't find any further information on this online" when it would take less than a minute on youtube to watch the planes very clearly fly into the towers and then equally clearly NOT FLY BACK OUT AGAIN! (highly damaged or otherwise!)

Goodness, some people on this thread should be ashamed of themselves - what an appalling pile on.

Agree, don't mock OP for asking a question or pretend it's too sensitive for discussion. Half the posters here have probably just watched the Oppenheimer movie despite the knowledge his invention and it's use was the most sickening horrific terrorist act ever and had no sensitivity issues with it.