9/11 - what happened to the planes?

[myyve]

Thinking on from that awful day after the anniversary yesterday, one thought has come to mind.

What happened to the planes and those onboard, once they were flown into the twin towers? I know this probably does sound silly and I'm so sorry if it comes across as ignorant, but I truly do not know, and the internet doesn't mention anything, either..

Did they come to a crash landing afterwards? Or did they continue flying? What actually happened to the plane and those poor souls on board?

@myyve if you haven't seen it, I highly recommend the documentary "102 Minutes That Changed America". It has no commentary and other than some text slides giving context of places and people the whole thing is made from footage taken by members of the public, first responders and news crews and shows what happened in real time - it starts just as the first plane hit the tower and finishes just after the second tower falls.

It is fascinating and heart-breaking in equal measure but I think it is one of the best pieces of film making about the whole tragedy.

That's not what common means. Louise is a common middle name among my age group, but not everyone is called Louise. A latte is a common choice of coffee, but they offer the rest of the menu for a reason.

Oh give it a rest. People change small insignificant details to prevent themselves being outed. It's a sensible thing to do.

Wilhelm Gustav, the victims were 9k+ but not 10k and they weren't all children by any means. However, it was an evacuation vessel with children and civilian adults onboard and torpedoing it was indeed a war crime.

You might be surprised actually. Some people are even engineers AND mums. [Shock]

OP there are masses of good sources and official information online. You'll get academic logins to various collections with your course. The Rail Accident Investigation Branch publish reports for instance and they are really interesting. Trying to work out how things happen the way they do is what engineering is about. No such thing as a stupid question.

I don't have anything to add/any suggestions for research resources @myyve but I did want to say you need to stop apologising for asking a question. You've done nothing wrong.

The people berating you need to grow the fuck up.

How does one learn research skills without doing assignments, pray tell?

It's odd that there seems to be a bit of a "Mandela effect" of more than one person on this thread believing that United 93 landed "safely" somewhere. I wonder how that came about, given the nature of what actually happened?

She only started 6 days ago!
Give her some time to actually learn the subject.
We all have to start somewhere.

One thing that most people don't appreciate about the aftermath of the attacks is that it took 100 days for the fires to go out.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/dec/20/september11.usa

The smell, all over Manhattan, was horrid.

If you were my 21 year old, I'd be telling you to get this thread deleted.
But you wouldn't have started it in the first place.
I lost a pal that day. I have to steel myself to watch documentaries about it, they are real and graphic and absolutely both show and talk about what actually happened. I'm astonished that you, at 21, think Mumsnet is the right forum.

For common sense, it takes the same sense as "common land" and "tragedy of the commons", meaning a thing owned or used by everyone.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions - everyday should be a school day, but if OP had googled "what happened to the 911 planes" she would have all the info she requires for her research. It took me less than 30 seconds.

Yes I agree.

I am shocked that I even wrote that they survived, as I remember it happening and watching countless documentaries on the 4th plane crashing.
So I don’t know why I thought they survived.

I’ve asked MN to remove my post as I don’t want to spread false information.

I am not 21, and I've never said that I am.

I am genuinely asking a question I don't know the answer to. I've apologised so many times, I don't know what else I can say.

I think because the plane didn't get to the intended destination. The people on board didn't survive but many others presumably did.

Apologies, i thought you said you we were 2 at the time.

Very good point. The conspiracy shit around 9/11 has been growing arms and legs recently.

OP, don't ever apologise for wanting to know more about a subject, particularly something which has shaped a large part of modern history the way 9/11 did.

I haven't read the full thread, so this may have been suggested already but there's an amazing series on Disney+ at the moment that goes through the events of 9/11 using witness footage and interviews. It's called One Day in America, I believe.

It's incredibly well-made, very, very thorough and not at all sensationalised. It is, however, a gruelling watch because it also doesn't pull punches. It runs in chronological chunks, using camera footage taken at the time, as much as possible. One of the hardest sections to watch is from a unit of firefighters who were one of the first on scene. They captured the first plane strike in a way I hadn't seen before, and it really does show the sheer horrific scale of it far better than some of the more 'famous' shots.

FWIW, I sat and watched the news footage as it happened, as an adult, and have read and watched various articles and interviews etc in the aftermath. I still learned loads from the series.

If you strongly suspect something is an ignorant question, don't ask. Look it up. If you can't find an answer anywhere on the entire of the internet, that's probably because the question is too stupid, or too obvious

I'm sorry but that is the single most stupid thing I have ever read online.

The saying "it's only obvious/easy if you already know the answer" comes to mind.

OP, keep asking questions. It's how most of us, excluding the posters on here who are so perfect they never need to ask, learn.

If she was 2 on 9/11 she would be 24 now.

Wow I’m actually blown away, women can qualify as engineers AND have children?
You learn something new every day, never ever did I think that was possible.

Some people really do love an opportunity to bully on Mumsnet. The sense of oneupmanship gives them a thrill, maybe.

There is no law saying you need to know the answer to every particular question. Who does? And who it the arbiter of the right kind of knowledge to have or to raise.

I don't doubt for a moment that the bully types know less than they'd have us all believe.

Are you contemplating quitting because of the responses on Mumsnet? That would be a silly thing to do. Without being patronising, you're going to face a lot more criticism as you progress through life, by people you actually have real life interactions with, not just a bunch of randoms on the internet. Adjust your thinking in how you adapt to criticism, and what you can learn from it and you'll be fine.

OP, as a New Yorker who lived through the whole incident, it's fine with me. I have kids who don't have any direct memory of the attacks, either. We took them to the 9/11 Memorial and Museum, and they learned about it. I told them about my lived experience of it. That's how we learn. I don't think what you asked here is disrespectful or offensive.