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Bully dog attacks random passers by in Birmingham

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users953269 · 10/09/2023 01:47

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This is absolutely disgusting!

How is this allowed to happen????!!

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Kinsters · 11/09/2023 06:36

CBAanymoreTBH · 10/09/2023 21:50

Someone must have triggered the dog/it was just looking for a child to nanny

Well, as the police statement took pains to point out, the girl who got attacked had dared to run in the presence of this dog. What did she expect to happen?!

That's sarcasm btw. I'm pleased to see the petition is now past 10,000 signatures.

Labtastic · 11/09/2023 06:47

wavws · 10/09/2023 23:24

I don’t understand what the appeal is of these dogs at all. I feel like they’ve all of a sudden become really popular over the last few years? What am I missing?

They look physically threatening. For the majority of people that own them, that's an advantage.

WanderingWitches · 11/09/2023 07:05

MintsPi · 10/09/2023 23:17

This is going to sound very harsh but if I had the money I'd buy every single one of these dogs up for sale and then euthanise each one.

I keep my wits about me and if I see one of these dogs in the distance (even on leads) I go as far away as possible even if I have to walk in completely the wrong direction. I also
refuse to be a sop anymore when it comes to the 'he's just being friendly' mob. I'm sick of putting on a smile when a dog approaches me that I don't want to interact with.

Only today there was a group of people at a children's play park with a dog off lead. They didn't notice the dogs repeated attempts to open the gate to the specific 'no dogs allowed' area until the dog managed to open the gate and I shouted to put the dog on a lead. Although this is of course a different scenario to one in the video it shows the lack of attention many dog owners have in regards to other members of the public. We need proper societal change in how dogs are expected to behave in public.

I don't think it's harsh. They need taking off the streets.

There is a story on BBC breakfast about them this morning. Hopefully the government consultation they are referring to, decides to something worthwhile.

WanderingWitches · 11/09/2023 07:13

If they do decide to add them to the dangerous dog list, what will happen to the dogs people currently have? Do they get destroyed?
I don't remember what happened when they banner pittbulls for example.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 11/09/2023 07:13

Need harsher and faster curtailment laws fit thier sil already open fogs who attack and maul people.
They need to get dog wardens and police officers to be hot on this for a few years and then people can't be bothered.

AbbeyGailsParty · 11/09/2023 07:41

Hollyhocksarenotmessy · 10/09/2023 07:27

This is going to sound odd, but stick with me..that dog isn't acting genuinely aggressive in my not-at-all-expert opinion.

It's playing a fun game (in its own head, in reality yes it's attacking people).

The way it's doing a jump for the arm, after a lollopy waggy tail chase, makes me think the arsehole owner has been doing 'defence training' with it. The 'chase then bite a padded sleeve' type. The dog looks happy and relaxed and confused someone's bashed it. It lets go immediately, which I don't think it would do in an aggressive attack.

This is in no way a defence, more being grateful that it could have been a hell of a lot worse and wasn't. And if I'm right, shows exactly how much of an irresponsible dickhead it's owner is.

That was my thoughts too. Def looks like the owner has done some half arsed stupid “ training” with it. And not a dog lead in sight on a busy street.
This definitely needs to be a banned breed and any current ones must be muzzled and on double lead when out.

SnorkeMor · 11/09/2023 07:45

Of course it’s the breed, but a large proportion is owners who want a big tough dog and don’t socialise or train it against this behaviour.

See Rottweilers in the 90s, German shepherds in the 80s, staffies since then. All these dogs have traits that make them desirable to certain people.

Since other breeds have taken over as the popular dogs for these people you don’t hear anything about GS or Rottweilers any more, and the number of staffie attacks are being quickly replaced with XL bullies - surely showing that the owners should take a large chunk of the blame, and should be criminalised.

I agree that XL bullies should be banned. There are far too many incidents, and they’re not a breed that seems to be kept safely by decent owners.

FannyFifer · 11/09/2023 08:05

I was attacked by a large Alsatian as a child, unprovoked, I was playing in the park, it was off lead and with two teenagers.
I have tried my hardest not to have my children terrified, they are fine with dogs.
The increase in dog ownership over the last few years is mental, there are dogs, and not well behaved or trained dogs everywhere.
Can't go anywhere without a dog running at me, jumping on me, every single time I go for a walk, i have been bitten twice (superficially) & had clothing ripped or soiled. I am not polite to the owners.
I think any dog that an adult would not be able to fight off has zero place in society.
There should be much tighter control of dog sales, licences to own dogs, mandatory training & insurance, all of this should be enforced, out for a walk, let's see your license & insurance.

theemmadilemma · 11/09/2023 08:28

EdithStourton · 10/09/2023 11:08

The way it's doing a jump for the arm, after a lollopy waggy tail chase, makes me think the arsehole owner has been doing 'defence training' with it. The 'chase then bite a padded sleeve' type.
Proper protection sports training does not involve a chase like that: the decoy (person in the padded suit) approaches the dog or handler.

You don't have to train some dogs to chase and bite. They want to do it.

Proper training with K9 security doesn't involve it, but these dicks buy sleeves with no clue and no training and attempt to train their dog.

Iheartpizza · 11/09/2023 11:53

WanderingWitches · 11/09/2023 07:13

If they do decide to add them to the dangerous dog list, what will happen to the dogs people currently have? Do they get destroyed?
I don't remember what happened when they banner pittbulls for example.

They should. But they won't. Because we have a bunch of wet idiots governing the country who don't want to rock the boat or upset anybody.

MegaManic · 11/09/2023 12:08

MidnightOnceMore · 10/09/2023 07:32

The dog situation is completely out of control. Yet another problem caused by Tory government cuts to councils - dog warden budgets are smaller yet the number of dogs - especially problem dogs - is higher.

The number of deaths from dog attacks has risen.

Fucks sake, anything we can't blame the govt for? How about the fucking idiot people who own them - why don't we blame them.
As usual all rights and no responsibility - everyone expects the govt to do everything for them. The number of deaths from dog attacks has increased because of irresponsible and stupid dog owners. Not helped by multiple FB and Tiktok videos of massive dogs with tiny babies and toddlers, saying how cute they look with their brother (eh it's an animal!) when in fact they could easily bite their face off.
No doubt the usual dog loving muppets will be out in force when the Home Secretary tries to ban this breed.

Stickytreacle · 11/09/2023 12:23

Im a lifelong dog owner, and I wouldn't go near one of these dogs with a 10ft bargepole. I'd be okay with seeing them taken off the owners and humanely destroyed.

I also think that any dog over a certain size or weight should require an expensive license and compulsory training. Any idiot can buy a huge dog and train it to chase/bite, we need protection as a society from unprovoked attacks like this.

Tiny2018 · 11/09/2023 12:44

Terrifying stuff. I'm not a dog fan anyway as have had one to many off leads jump all over me and I'm only 5ft and 7stone. Owners tend to laugh it off and usually state they're just bring friendly. I don't give a shiny shit, I now have claw Mark's down my skin and it bloody hurts.

But these type of breeds are a different ball game altogether, I cannot stand them and they need banning. Disgusting that you could literally be going about your every day business and a bloody monster like this could take chunks out of you. Doesn't bare thinking about.

Thosesummernights · 11/09/2023 15:33

There have been more fatalities caused by XL bullies in the last 10 years than they’re caused by pitbulls when they were banned. I hope these stats will mean an immediate ban and a strict clamp down on those who have any right now. Unfortunately, as many are used to make money for back yard breeders, the fate of many dogs will be concerning. There needs to be a proper plan to deal with them to avoid them literally being turned out on the street.

WeWereInParis · 11/09/2023 15:42

You can be sent to prison for having a dog that is dangerously out of control - why was the owner of this dog just "spoken to"? Will anything else happen?

MissPear · 11/09/2023 15:58

Everyone should watch this on the subject: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001hjbw/panorama-dogs-dealers-and-organised-crime

When I’m ruler of the world, I’ll introduce dog licences with special categories for people who want to breed. To get one you have to do a theory and practical test. The dogs DNA would be sequenced so people who leave their shit on the pavement can be traced and fined. It would be funded through fines.

Panorama - Dogs, Dealers and Organised Crime

Panorama reveals the growing relationship between organised crime and dog dealing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001hjbw/panorama-dogs-dealers-and-organised-crime

PrincessOfTigger · 11/09/2023 16:15

There are so many bad or naive dog owners but also people who exploit them like breeders. There are also irresponsible charities like Dog’s Trust whose mantra “we never put a healthy dog down” and BS about “forever homes” might sound great and get them loads of donations but also means they are persuading well-meaning but naive people to take home dogs that are completely unsuited for rehoming.

CBAanymoreTBH · 14/09/2023 11:41

So many of these dogs being rehomed via FB. Read the description.

Bully dog attacks random passers by in Birmingham
PaperSheet · 14/09/2023 12:02

CBAanymoreTBH · 14/09/2023 11:41

So many of these dogs being rehomed via FB. Read the description.

Yeah that dog has obviously been aggressive to other dogs and her child at least. There would be no other way to know that without it happening. And I imagine it's happened more than once. The fact they don't state how aggressive they can be is worrying. Saying a "lack of patience with little people" could mean anything from walking away from them or attacking/growling/snapping/biting them. But the fact they're getting rid of the dog and state definitely no other pets or children mean they know this dog is potentially dangerous to them. Unless they're honest a person could adopt it and have a lovely home life. Until one day they take it for a walk and it attacks a child running past. So you've got this "loving sweet best friend" dog that also is aggressive enough to need to be rehomed.

Thurlarder · 14/09/2023 12:02

CBAanymoreTBH · 14/09/2023 11:41

So many of these dogs being rehomed via FB. Read the description.

The responsible thing to do is have this dog put down.

MixedTocopherols · 14/09/2023 14:21

God that's so troubling. Basically, 'I've decided this dangerous dog should be someone else's problem'

MidnightOnceMore · 14/09/2023 15:27

CBAanymoreTBH · 14/09/2023 11:41

So many of these dogs being rehomed via FB. Read the description.

This makes me really angry, passing on the problem.

Pebblesflintstoneandbambamrubble · 14/09/2023 16:21

I know a woman who is 5'5,looks like a size 8/10 and loves these kind of dogs (I really think it's a status dog for her)

She got one of these dogs as a puppy for free on either gumtree or fb (I can't remember)

Her 3 children are in Foster care for other reasons so she got this pup for company (lovely kids,all under 10-ones a toddler)

Ss couldn't give less of a fuck about the risk and she's due to get her children back in the next month or so

I've seen her being dragged down the street by this dog-its not even a year old-she hadnt trained it as its 'just a pup'

she has zero control over it

its a ticking time bomb-its snarling ball of fur as it is

But it's her 'baby' and 'misunderstood' apparently

Oh and it looks 'good' in her selfies

I'm dreading seeing on the news that it's gone for one of her kids or even worse and killed one/someone else

I see them around my area-always with a type of young bloke,zero control massive bollocks swinging (cos they wont neuter it) and both with the swagger and in about 50% of cases,a child in a pushchair

Beggers belief

Myworldjusthim · 14/09/2023 16:34

Haven’t read the full thread at all but I’ve seen the video before. That scene is after the dog has already attacked a little girl. Some men stopped it from killing her. The owner in the green t shirt can’t control it and he lets it go. The dog runs off chasing some guys and the dog attacks them. 3 people were injured and attacked by the dog.
whoever said the dog is playing doesn’t know what they are talking about.

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