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What’s the scariest unsolved mystery you know?

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Mimmy352 · 02/09/2023 18:17

Whether it’s personal or well known, which unsolved case makes your brain sound like dial up?

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MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 03/09/2023 08:46

Defiantjazz · 03/09/2023 08:41

Dyatlov Pass and the Yuba County Five are both completely baffling and creepy.

Dyatlov Pass - I saw a documentary about,they were naked because in the final stages of hypothermia you actually be some very hot hence the removal of clothes. I can't remember the rest but it was all explained.

AncientBallerina · 03/09/2023 08:46

CaveMum · 02/09/2023 19:08

@AncientBallerina have you listened to the Crime Analyst podcast about Sophie’s case? It is well worth a listen.

thanks I’ve listened to theWest Cork podcast and watched two documentaries and read one of the books 😳
It is the lack of definitive evidence to try and convict anyone in Ireland that is so frustrating. The violence to such a lovely woman is horrifying and for it to happen there in West Cork. Of course some people in that area do have form.

Tatslookawful · 03/09/2023 08:51

Louise303 · 03/09/2023 02:03

If you have an ancestry account you can download your dna to gedmatch for free. I think ancestry is the only uk dna provider to do this you can download free to myheritage,dna living etc. When you sign up to gedmatch they ask for permission to share but I think this is only police in America. Quite a lot of cases have been solved this way I know one was the rape and murder of a little girl. The dna match was not the person that did the crime I think he was a nephew.

Thanks, again you’re right. With the critical mass at Ancestry though, (millions more on it than anywhere else) almost any Doe case could be solved by an expert in time, in theory. Caveat being if of an ethnicity that wasn’t well represented as yet on the database. Morals/ethics behind the evolving science.

USA ‘rape kits’ (DNA) re: crime aren’t routinely uploaded to a central ‘criminal’ DNA database, unlike the UK. Arguably They’d have caught the Golden State killer far sooner if they were. There’s a kit backlog in USA too.

If you are trying to solve unknown parentage cases/mysteries AncestryDNA the first place to test (critical mass/won’t accept third party uploads) & then upload elsewhere as you suggest, to ‘fish’ in other pools.

PurpleChrayne · 03/09/2023 08:53

is there a chance that Lucy Letby could be innocent.

I very much doubt it.

Naunet · 03/09/2023 08:59

Jennifer Fairgate/the Oslo woman. Found murdered and alone in a hotel room locked from the inside.

LylaLee · 03/09/2023 09:01

NotyouGuillermo · 02/09/2023 22:26

I think about the Caylee Anthony case sometimes. I remember seeing advertisement for a Crime+Investigation show a few months ago, that was an interview with Casey Anthony and I couldn’t watch it as I have my thoughts about her involvement.

There was something about how the police examining her computer only checked internet explorer.

Afterwards, it was found that there have been searches about suffocation on Firefox but (I'm not sure why) that was inadmissible.

BaaCode · 03/09/2023 09:02

RadishesForYou · 03/09/2023 05:48

The Ben Needham case has been solved. A construction worker ran him over by mistake and then covered up the body rather than coming forward.

That was a theory that was never proven and his mother never believed.
She's currently asking for a river in Germany to be searched.

Forgetmesnot · 03/09/2023 09:02

Haven’t read the whole thread but I’m so intrigued by missing person cases. Loads have already been mentioned but I thought I’d also add (all from USA)
Brian Schaffer
Bryce Laspisa
Brandon Swanson

One local(ish) to me is Luke Durbin. Stranded in Ipswich in the early hours with no money. What haunts me as a mother, is that he went in to a cab office to try and get a cab home but they wouldn’t let him because he had no money. They told him to call his mum to get her bank card details but he refused because he didn’t want to wake her. I will hammer in to my kids to never ever be afraid to call me whenever they need me whatever time of night. He was never seen again after last being seen on CCTV near the train station, except a scary sounding sighting of him inside a car.

Tatslookawful · 03/09/2023 09:02

CassiniG · 03/09/2023 08:24

So many videoed and body parts found but not identified each year!

www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/13338949/unidentified-bodies-database-uk-unsolved-murders/amp/

2021 - Currently there are 1,131 unidentified cases open on the database, with the reports dating from 1950-2020. A number of these cases will be historical partial remains.

Example and reconstruction photo -

Nude in the Nettles
On August 28, 1981, a police officer received a call claiming a decomposed body had been found "among the willow herbs" near Scawton Moor House in Yorkshire.
The mysterious caller refused to reveal his name and address for "national security reasons" and quickly hung up.

PC John Jeffries made his way to the area and eventually came across weathered human bones dumped in the undergrowth.
After several hours, police managed to find a decaying body tangled among the 6ft herbs exactly where the caller had described.

The woman was lying propped against a back wall - her remains mostly skeletal.
She was completely naked - leading to the chilling case being dubbed the "Nude in the Nettles".
Police began combing for clues in the area and discovered three fresh tracks leading to and from the body, and a yoghurt top lying beneath her dated 1979 - the year forensics say she died.
A huge investigation was launched to determine who the woman was and how she died.

They described her as around 5ft 4ins with dark brown hair and her toenails painted in Max Factor pale pink varnish.

Pathologists discovered she had given birth to two or three children but no wedding ring was found and a lack of other jewellery made identification impossible.
To add to the riddle, a black evening gown, bra and underwear were found hanging from a tree around half-a-mile from where the body was discovered that have never been claimed.
In an unprecedented move for the time, police used scientists and make up artists to create a waxwork reconstruction of her head in the hope someone would recognise her.

And her body was exhumed in 2012 so a DNA profile could be created and the case could finally be closed.
But 40 years on, the Nude in the Nettles still hasn't been identified with her remains laid to rest in a plain coffin with the inscription: "Name unknown".

Many would & could be solved if could be ‘uploaded’ to AncestryDNA database, but legally & morally you can’t. There’s an art to working with what’s on there & edging closer to solution.

Scottishdreams1991 · 03/09/2023 09:04

Baby seafied.
Baby boy found dead next to rail tracks local to me. Mum was never found:(

SecretVictoria · 03/09/2023 09:04

jellytotsparkles · 03/09/2023 03:01

Is there a specific sub/topic on Mumsnet where people who like to discuss real life cases/mysteries/unsolved incidents can discuss them? Or does it just come under the Crime sub or The Unexplained?

If not then would it be worth/possible in future to have a topic specifically aimed at those who have a keen interest in these types of cases? Just a thought.

I don’t think there’s a specific one on here but Reddit has several:

Cold Case Uk
Unresolved Mysteries
Unsolved Murders

Allthatwegotisthispalebluedot · 03/09/2023 09:04

Some of the details in this case are so bizarre I’ve never been able to get it out of my head:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Zebb_Quinn

Murder of Zebb Quinn - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Zebb_Quinn

MoiraRosesBaybay · 03/09/2023 09:08

Forgetmesnot · 03/09/2023 09:02

Haven’t read the whole thread but I’m so intrigued by missing person cases. Loads have already been mentioned but I thought I’d also add (all from USA)
Brian Schaffer
Bryce Laspisa
Brandon Swanson

One local(ish) to me is Luke Durbin. Stranded in Ipswich in the early hours with no money. What haunts me as a mother, is that he went in to a cab office to try and get a cab home but they wouldn’t let him because he had no money. They told him to call his mum to get her bank card details but he refused because he didn’t want to wake her. I will hammer in to my kids to never ever be afraid to call me whenever they need me whatever time of night. He was never seen again after last being seen on CCTV near the train station, except a scary sounding sighting of him inside a car.

That’s local to me too.

Although I grew up long before this case whenever I went out my dad would leave a £20 note (which was a good amount of money in those days) on the kitchen table. The reason being that if I got stuck somewhere without any money knew the taxi fare was there.

Pasithean · 03/09/2023 09:08

Where are Renee and Andrew Machrae’s bodies.

I was a young child and living in Scotland at the time. So sad.

BaaCode · 03/09/2023 09:09

@andjustlikethat1 I'm on the fence with the Steven Avery case. On the one hand, you think yes it's possible. Then you hear the evidence and think, no, he's innocent. It's a hard one.
Same with Lucy Letby for me.

Museya15 · 03/09/2023 09:11

The Somerton Man was the mystery that got me the most. When all was unravelled it was shocking.

BaaCode · 03/09/2023 09:11

Corrie McKeague, the young RAF lad who went missing following a night out is another head scratcher for me.

Pushkinini · 03/09/2023 09:13

PurpleSneakers · 02/09/2023 23:31

Marion Barter

I've been following this case and the podcast for years. I really hope Sally Leydon gets some answers once the coroner reports her findings.

MoiraRosesBaybay · 03/09/2023 09:16

BaaCode · 03/09/2023 09:11

Corrie McKeague, the young RAF lad who went missing following a night out is another head scratcher for me.

He was in the large wheelie bin which went to with the landfill site or the incinerator. If he’s in the landfill it would be next to impossible to find him, if he went to the incinerator then it’s far too late.

Pootle40 · 03/09/2023 09:16

BaaCode · 03/09/2023 09:09

@andjustlikethat1 I'm on the fence with the Steven Avery case. On the one hand, you think yes it's possible. Then you hear the evidence and think, no, he's innocent. It's a hard one.
Same with Lucy Letby for me.

Lucy Letby is as guilty as they come!

NoHunsHereHun · 03/09/2023 09:18

I think they were the only pedestrians on the bridge, so no one to grab him. The worst part for me is that he returns 15 minutes later, the woman tries to get him to stop, but he ignores her. It’s so bizarre.

happyasaseagullstealingchips · 03/09/2023 09:21

Evelyn Hartley
Joan Risch
Wanda Beach Murders
Beverly Potts

And many more Websleuths Missing but not forgotten is heartbreaking.

MoiraRosesBaybay · 03/09/2023 09:22

Pootle40 · 03/09/2023 09:16

Lucy Letby is as guilty as they come!

We must remember that there will have been many things presented to the jury or seen by police that we don’t know about. Don’t think just because she is young and pretty she couldn’t do it.

SecretVictoria · 03/09/2023 09:27

Can’t find the poster to tag but I read about Lola Shenkoya and Elizabeth Chau. There was thoughts of a link to Andrezj Kunowski; he was convicted of rape in 2002 and the 1997 murder of a 12 year old girl in her own home. He worked in a dry cleaners on Ealing Rd at the time both women went missing.

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/serial-rapist-nicknamed-beast-who-25231271

Serial rapist who stalked women in West London murdered girl, 12

Andrzej Kunowski was caught five years later and sexually assaulted dozens of children and women

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/serial-rapist-nicknamed-beast-who-25231271

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