Lucy Letby guilty

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Lucy Letby has been convicted of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six more.

My thoughts are with the families of the victims.

It is there inherent classism/sexism on display.

If it was a man, or hate to say it, the initial photos was of her in the likes of Benidorm in a bikini holding an alchopop then the surprise would suddenly disappear.

Some people just can't fathom that being evil doesn't manifest among certain traits as any look into history will show.

Why on earth did they protect a killer in their midst.
Especially innocent babies.

I’m curious why that in the years prior to LL starting work on average 3 children died per year. After she left only 1 baby died in 7 years. What changed in the unit? I think there will be more details of failures to come.

The members of the jury will be traumatised, as someone just said. Must have been very hard to be a part of.

The BBC programme now is hard to watch and listen to.

She's mc and white

What did that e mail say?
"Not nice Lucy"?

Ffs

Basic safeguarding failure at every level, it seems

It is internalised prejudice but its also self preservation I think. Its more comforting to think that you can tell if someone is evil but there's then more chance of protecting yourself from it, but that of course isn't actually the reality.

Beverley Allitt ? Was that the name of the nurse in the 90s who killed babies in a hospital? Horrible. But this was in another level.

Yes.

Theres also Charlie Cullen, the film “The Good Nurse” is based on it. But that wasn’t babies. Not that it makes it any better.

https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2022/nov/03/the-good-nurse-true-story-netflix-serial-killer

I agree- It makes us feel 'Safer' when we think we can tell if someone is 'a bad un' or not.

What an absolute brute.

She looks mild mannered and you'd not be worried if someone like that was entrusted with your child - it's terrifying.

Consultants noticed that babies died when she was on duty- why the hell didn't managers look into this.

I've read that after she left the unit was downgraded. They would have subsequently cared for less vulnerable babies and a lower mortality rate might be expected as a result of this.

Empty words... ''Lessons learned'' - Hospital spokesperson

''Lessons learned '' won't give people their babies back.

The managers DID look into it, even commissioned external investigations, but then failed to act on the outcomes and threatened the whistleblowers with ending their medical careers.

That is appalling.

It's awful she didn't even come up to hear her crimes etc such a coward.

I personally think the 'executives' who ignored the alarms should be behind bars too. No words for her.

Agree with this completely.

To me it shows that the jury only convicted in those cases where there was a strong case. Obviously it is heartbreaking for those parents that didn't get their conviction but it sounds as though the jury did a very thorough job and didn't just want to find her guilty of everything because of the pressure of the case.

She should be forced to face the grieving Families of those she murdered.

It oughtn't be allowed that cowards like this can hide like a rat in a drain in their cell.

When you work in safeguarding you have to be prepared to think the unthinkable and those in charge of the unit were unable to do so.

Sincere thanks to the jury and thoughts with the parents and survivors. So many lives ruined.

Agree. Guilty because they allowed her mass murder to continue apace.

True, We like to think ourselves creatures capable of rational and logical thought, and sometimes we are, but often it's the sub-conscious in the driving seat.

Robert Heinlein makes the distinction that "man is not a rational creature, but a rationalising one".

From BBC reporting:

In June 2016: For Dr Brearey and his fellow consultants, the deaths of the two triplets were a tipping point. That evening, Dr Brearey says he called duty executive Karen Rees and demanded Letby be taken off duty. She refused.

Brearey says he challenged her about whether she was making this decision against the wishes of seven consultant paediatricians - and asked if she would take responsibility for anything that might happen to other babies the next day. He says Ms Rees replied "yes".

The following day another baby nearly died.

They’ll keep that cunt in solitary so no one can get to her before shipping her off to a cosy hospital setting.

Fuck it, hopefully the evil bitch kills herself shortly. Cowards way out, yes, but better than hearing about the worthless POS getting to do “art therapy” or whatever. Prefer her fucking dead.

The statistical reports that flagged the Countess of Chester as having high mortality rates were published 18 months/ two years after the year being reported.
Maybe more attention by doctors and senior management, perhaps, following Brexit, there may have been fewer mums who struggled to communicate their concerns or symptoms to staff.
Everything that some posters wish on Lucy Letby was visited on Sally Clark, convicted because a man with a theory to peddle told the jury that it was 73 million to one, or the same odds as picking the winner in the Grand National for four consecutive years that she wasn't a killer. Medical/Legal etiquette resulted in the pathologist repeatedly failing to tell the jury that the second child had a serious bacterial infection.
Maxine Robinson came close to successfully appealing, challenging the same expert witness, but confessed in prison.
My sympathies not only to bereaved parents but also to the poor jurors who will never be the same again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxine_Robinson

Because the reputation of the hospital (and by extension their reputation as senior management) was more important to them than safeguarding babies.

They did want this to have happened on their watch.

How deeply frustrating for those who tried to whistleblow that there was a killer on the loose. Families’ lives devastated and the lives of tiny innocent babies robbed by some psychopath. Rot in hell you evil piece of shit.