Lucy Letby guilty

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Lucy Letby has been convicted of the murder of seven babies and the attempted murder of six more.

My thoughts are with the families of the victims.

I agree.

I am disgusted by such posters.

Munchausens by proxy is what Beverly Alit was diagnosed with and they are similar cases.

There is no need for personal attacks. This is a very complex and difficult case, and other people are allowed to have misgivings or mixed feelings about which way the convictions went.

I hope she rots

@colouringindoors 100 per cent what you said. She could have been stopped much sooner. Beggars belief that she was being highlighted and she played the victim card when vulnerable babies life's were at risk. All those in charge need investigated.

it wasn't 48 vs 52 referendum.

The monster was found overwhelmingly guilty of murdering babies in her care.

Misgivings and mixed feelings???

Wtf is wrong with you people.

I know, Blossom, but would the police necessarily have had to say who the report came from, had one of the other medics approached them?

I honestly don't know, but would like to

My friend worked at Rampton. It is not a cushy life. The people in there are incredibly unwell and disturbed. My friend said it was the most difficult psychiatric hospital job she has had and it is an intense and scary place.

Yes, other posters are allowed to think differently to you.

I don't know why you're having a go at me, I'm of the opinion that the correct verdict was probably reached.

I feel sorry for all the parents, hers included. Imagine rearing someone capable of that

My niece and nephew were born in this hospital at the same time as she was there. It is utterly horrifying.

I do worry about these people who have read thing online and listened to podcasts and feel they know the case as well as the jury and the barristers involved.

When really all they have the evidence presented by none experts for ad revenue. I love a good podcast but I am not about the take the information in my favourite podcasts as gospel. The jury had access the everything. They deliberated for a really long time so have obviously looked at it carefully.

Those making dark muttering about something being wrong or a miscarriage of justice are really making a mockery of the whole trial process and the hard work of the jury. And also showing themselves up as a bit ignorant.

None of the podcasts could have the entire evidence set because the trial hadn’t finished so they couldn’t report on it fully. Now it’s done I’m sure confirmation bias will mean they’ll all
spin it to suit the narrative they’ve already created.

Because it then it is just a shocking story that makes them money.

I imagine her parents will have a hard time of it.

Unfortunately people often make family and friends guilty by association, whether they are or not.

And as a parent I can’t imagine what it must be like to know that your child is guilty of such horrendous crimes.

I would like to think that I would disown my child in those circumstances. I certainly wouldn’t protect them, and if I had suspicions I would report them myself. But even then, the confirmation of the truth must be crushing.

That's pretty much it. I can't bear to think what those babies' families must be going through now.

My DS was a tiny premature baby in a neonatal unit a few years ago, we trusted the staff implicitly to take care of him. What this woman has done is such a grotesque betrayal of trust. I just don't understand those who are defending her.

Save your sympathy for those who deserve it.

I wonder though, if the police had been called in by consultants if management would have reported that they had no concerns when asked?

If the cause of death was being put down as bowel issues etc and management had no concerns would it have been taken seriously?

Your post suggests otherwise.

Yes, other posters are allowed to think differently to you

Do you not find this comment odd after a 9 month trial?

Do you not think that the jurors know far far far more than you?

She looks normal.

But I just watched a video of her speaking.

When she speaks , she sounds weird and cold. Like there is something wrong

The sensibilities, or otherwise, of the parents is no reason to curtail the right to free speech or to delete posts on a public forum, or anywhere else for that matter, just because they don’t fall in line with your own beliefs or opinions. I have expressed the fact that the verdict troubles me, based on personal experience of the hospital. That does not make me, or anyone else expressing those views here, a child murderer sympathiser or a member of a fan club of notorious criminals - whatever that is. Nor does it mean we are taking the side of a child murderer. This was a difficult case, and more than one poster has said they would have hated to be on the jury. People are bound to be in one camp or the other, or as in my own case, undecided - they have questions, and they have just as much right to their opinion as anyone else.

I know its always the standard thing to say of ‘bring back the death penalty’ but I genuinely wish it on Lucy Letby. I know people will say she will suffer more being locked up, but she still has a life. She took away the lives of these beautiful babies in the cruelest way and I wish nothing but the worst for her.

This is the point I was trying to make.

If the causes of death were originally recorded incorrectly that would explain- partly anyway- why it took so long to stop her. And they were recorded incorrectly if they were later able to ascertain they were wrong.

I've followed the case pretty closely and it's true that in isolation, a lot of the examples of evidence are innocuous and explainable. But put together, they paint quite a damning picture.

One of the main points that struck me was when she tried to argue about the time when one of the mothers had come down to the unit to give her baby some milk at around 9pm. The mother had been very concerned about her child but was sent away by Letby, and on the way back to her ward rang her husband to share her concerns. Phone records confirmed the call time. However, Letby swore blind that the interaction with this mother had happened an hour later, at 10pm. The very notion that a mother with a newborn in ICU, feeling helpless and worried, would be late or mistaken about feeding times was ludicrous to me.

No, it's not odd. People are always allowed to think differently.

And yes, the jurors do know far more than you or I. I don't disagree with their verdicts and I am not arguing against them.

That doesn't mean other people aren't allowed to have contradictory thoughts.

This.

I think its likely her parents will decide to believe she is not guilty. Her mum apparently broke down in court saying "no this cant be right this can't be happening". Easier to believe your child has suffered a huge miscarriage of justice then believe they murdered lots of babies i guess.. either way their lives are ruined.

This is a very well known and interesting case about MBP if anyone is interested, it was in the states and the girl went on to arrange and participate in the murder of her mother.

https://www.biography.com/crime/gypsy-rose-blanchard-mother-dee-dee-murder