The immigrant barge - what’s actually wrong with using it?

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Educate me!

I looked at pics from the inside, it all looks very much like standard student accommodation to me, including common rooms/relaxation areas/health support on board. Residents can go on & off the boat, it’s passed fire etc safety and been used to house people in lots of other situations. I don’t understand why people think it’s not ok. Can anyone explain please?

I dont see a problem with it at all.

Is there nowhere safe between England and Ukraine that Ukrainians could go to instead?

Double standards galore around here.

So are you saying we shouldn’t have to provide for asylum seekers? Leave it as someone else’s issue?

er take far fewer than other similar countries

Yup.
And it's not only scabies and TB -

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/28/uk-asylum-seekers-with-diphtheria-symptoms-to-be-held-in-isolation-hotels

On the news Pakistanis were trying to come to the UK via Libya.

They are economic migrants surely

Then you should start a campaign to change the law. It was established by a case at the High Court in 1999 and upheld on appeal by the HoLs that transit through other countries is perfectly fine for asylum seekers to do.

There's no medical appointments locally. There's certainly very limited NHS dentist provision.
The electrical grid is under stress. The sewerage system cannot cope. Rentals are massively expensive and huge numbers applying for each one. Many people housed in substandard accommodation within areas of high pollution.

Where will everyone be housed? What jobs will they do?

Via Libya ??

They've either got no sense of direction or faulty compasses.

I live nearby and can assure you that it now houses asylum seekers together with another Marriot Hotel fairly nearby. There were a lot of upset people having their weddings and other events cancelled due to this.

Rishi has plenty of advisors who will have told him neither this nor the Rwanda scheme will deter people and may make illegal trafficking worse. The message is not for the migrants. It’s for right wing U.K. voters and any swing voters he might manage to convince with lies.

The vast majority of asylum seekers have no idea what things will be like when they get here. What you don’t know about can’t act as a deterrent.

spot on. But sadly so many people, including our own government, would rather play politics than care about lives

The way people talk on these threads its as if potential asylum seekers are perusing the Daily Mail and reading with horror that they might be housed on a barge and that people dont want them here and so book a different trafficker and decide on Germany instead.

People dont know and are unlikely to care about the details of things like this, there isnt any deterrent, human migration is hundreds of thousands of years old, its what humans do, for a variety of reasons

I thought we were all meant to be in favour of market forces and whoever pays the most can have what they want?

Don't forget there are no safe places between here and HK either.

BINGO

That must be it now we’ve reached mobile phones and leather jackets.

Turkey cracked down on them plus afghans.

What exactly is so wrong with economic migrants anyway? Why shouldn't people be allowed to seek out a better life beyond their country of birth, as long as they are willing to work and contribute positively to society? Britons are one of the most emigrant nationalities. Somehow it's perfectly ok for us or our friends or relatives to work or live abroad but woe betide anybody who dares to come here, especially if they are dark of skin, non-christian or don't have English as their first language.

🙄 You know each individual of the 500 men? They've been here for way over a year. It's fine whilst they finally have their application checked.

Huge numbers of people living in Britain today are the offspring of economic migrants, many people of Irish, Italian, Spanish, Greek, Portuguese descent (politics, persecution and famine having also played a role).

The amount of employees processing asylum claims should be tripled. Get the claims through in two months instead of two years so the economic migrants can be weeded out and sent back home. The millions it currently costs to house them would cancel out the millions it would cost to employ more people to process the claims. GPs, dentists, schools, hospitals, housing are all at bursting point.

If they turned up with bakelite phones and trenchcoats, I would have a lot more respect.

I have to say I assume that the Prime Minister has no issue with economic migrants having been one to the US earlier in his life.

@EllenVannen The hypocrisy stinks especially after what we were put through.

At the risk of repeating myself, housing is not at breaking point there are estimated to be over a million empty homes in the UK.
That situation may though help to explain why other services are breaking though. Some people seem to find it acceptable that millionaires such as Rishi Sunak pay a lower proportion of their income in taxes than teachers and nurses do.

GPs, dentists, schools, hospitals, housing are at bursting point because of over a decade of brutal government underfunding, not because of asylum seekers.