Was the young Queen Victoria incredibly beautiful or nay?

[MorrisZapp]

Movies and TV suggest she was stunning as a young woman, but all the pictures of her that are widely familiar today are of a plain fizzog.

Was she hot or not?

I must have a different variety of eyeball as for me neither Andrew nor Edward even approached lukewarm, never mind hot.

I can understand that different people like different things, but I don't believe anyone who sees those pictures and thinks they're so hideous that it's a mystery anyone should think they're attractive. They're clearly objectively good looking even if they don't spin every single person's wheels.

To me they just look ordinary. Nothing more.

Christina of Milan was reported to have said that, had she 2 heads, one would be at the disposal of the king of England.
He loved Holbein's portrait of her that he kept it in his bedroom.

No. The portraits of her as a young woman would have been made to flatter according to the beauty standards of the time.

I was being sarcastic about Mike @Nomoreheroics, hence the wink emoji!!

@DrSbaitso that is how Anne of Cleeves is portrayed in the musical Six. It's my favourite song from there.

I know the music but I haven't seen the show. I know I'm overthinking it, but I'm so pissed off about how they portrayed Anne Boleyn. "Politics, not my thing"??

I also didn't much like all the head jokes. I hate it when she becomes a punch line. Very catchy song, though.

Perhaps I need to get over myself. I know it's not supposed to be that serious.

It's quite silly. It was originally a Cambridge footlights production for the Edinburgh Fringe and I think it still feels quite Fringe like - short and amusing. But say just they did some research - though take your point about Anne.

I mean *but they did some research....

No neither were handsome or attractive

William was good looking then suddenly morphed into a royal and rather less so

Harry isn’t particularly good looking but he is charismatic like his mum was

and as for Charles 😬😬😬 but I guess his awkward charm maybe attractive to some

William definitely had a window where he was handsome. It passed so quickly though.

William was handsome in his youth but now he looks like, as a MNetter once said, a malevolent egg.

I notice that Prince Albert, even when young quickly developed the typical male pattern baldness that Charles and both William and now Harry have developed - starting from the crown of the head.

More importantly, Prince Albert did a lot for Great Britain, worked incredibly hard (I think at times he needed space from Victoria - their rows were infamous) and created the Crystal Palace and the Great Exhibition in 1851 which was good for Britain’s standing in the world in general. He promoted the arts too.

And of course the Christmas tree and genital piercings. 😃

Though I have say that I never understood the William admirers. He looks just the same to me but with the loss of his hair.

One at at time….one at a time.

Looks, probably not, but she definitely had personality, and in her youth she loved to party. So I think that she would have shone much more in real life than comes across from a picture.

You see I was just about to post that I think William is quite handsome when he has a hat on/head covered. He has classically handsome features, is tall and in good shape. It’s only his baldness that makes him seen as unattractive.

Beauty is subjective and it’s all in the eye of the beholder of course. Like I said previously, I have read some unkind things about Beatrice but I think she looks lovely (especially since she’s upped her fashion/style choices around the same time she married Edo).

And most importantly the water/sewage system which done so much for the slums.

Social work also was started in the Victorian times.

Marriage and children were pretty high risk for aristocratic women back then. Having the money, status and security of a princess without any of the peril of the marriage market was a pretty good deal. I doubt she would have swapped.

Actually Anne hoped that Henry would remarry her after Catherine Howard’s execution and was quite offended when he chose Catherine Parr, as she considered herself more attractive than Catherine.

I know a bit about George IV, off to Google William IV now.

Piercings?
Tell me more.

A Prince Albert is a kind of penis piercing.

I lead such a sheltered life. I had no idea.