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Rishi triumphs over the teaching unions!

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noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 13:43

He has managed to beat the teaching unions into submission and to call off strikes by:

Offering them a pay deal worth more than double the original government recommendation

Giving schools extra funding to pay for it.

Well done Rishi, you really showed them!

https://twitter.com/rishisunak/status/1679462222655881218?s=46&t=vKGM6xpoeW3wdlaVVVagQA

https://twitter.com/rishisunak/status/1679462222655881218?s=46&t=vKGM6xpoeW3wdlaVVVagQA

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noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 16:02

Tryingmuchharder · 13/07/2023 15:57

This.
Stop wasting money then there would be more for the important things. Very similar to a family budget.
Or tax the super wealthy like him a little more.

Michael Gove handed back £1.9 billion to the Treasury because he couldn’t find any housing projects to spend it on.

So there is spare money https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michael-gove-housing-crisis-unspent-cash-b2373711.html

Gove hands £1.9bn of housing cash back to Treasury as ‘nothing to spend it on’

Local government expert Jack Shaw said the government faced ‘significant challenges investing in housing’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/michael-gove-housing-crisis-unspent-cash-b2373711.html

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mirages08 · 13/07/2023 16:03

Ffs
What a wankmuffin

luckylavender · 13/07/2023 16:04

Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 15:40

Glad it’s resolved, the general public have no
appetite for strikes.

It's not resolved yet.

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RebelR · 13/07/2023 16:04

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 13:52

They’re giving schools an extra 3%, so not the full whack, but more than they were giving for the 4.5% offer that they said was ‘affordable on average’ and there will be a hardship fund for schools who fall into the “still can’t afford” category.

The letter sent to schools says it's "fully funded" can you direct me to where the 3% is stated?

luckylavender · 13/07/2023 16:05

@noblegiraffe - my mistake. Apologies

LadyWithLapdog · 13/07/2023 16:06

Sunak is a Tory snake, I don’t trust him. Let’s see the details.

Sources for the extra money: how about the £££ wasted on PPE and other contracts to their mates abc the £££ wasted in Covid fraud which the Tories have gallantly written off. What’s a few billion between friends.

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 16:08

RebelR · 13/07/2023 16:04

The letter sent to schools says it's "fully funded" can you direct me to where the 3% is stated?

Head of NAHT

Rishi triumphs over the teaching unions!
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TheLifeofMe · 13/07/2023 16:10

But where is this money coming from. Everyone thinks there's a money tree. It will be taken from an area that needs that money. MPs will still keep getting their pay rises. Subsidised lunches at Parliament but nhs staff have to pay for parking and lunches.

Nevertheless, when the corrupt government wants to find money for their dodgy mates who get awarded contracts but they can't find the money to improve the NHS. Rishi wants private health care. It will happen in time and we will all be spending thousands for basic treatment and medication. We are heading towards a disaster under this government. I've never known it so bad.

kirinm · 13/07/2023 16:12

@noblegiraffe do you work for the NEU? Just out of curiosity rather than being snide. Most posts I've seen elsewhere are not anywhere near as positive as your posts .

Blossomtoes · 13/07/2023 16:16

MPs will still keep getting their pay rises

I’d be absolutely astonished if they accepted another one in this parliamentry term.

Subsidised lunches at Parliament but nhs staff have to pay for parking and lunches.

Hopefully the next government will bin both parliamentary subsidies and NHS staff parking charges.

kirinm · 13/07/2023 16:16

Will the DfE have a spare £900m a year or is it just the year of the election?

RebelR · 13/07/2023 16:19

Try not to gloat too much in schools. Support staff are still waiting for their April rise and it won't be this much, despite the "public sector staff" headline.

Notonthestairs · 13/07/2023 16:19

kirinm · 13/07/2023 16:16

Will the DfE have a spare £900m a year or is it just the year of the election?

Good question- Saving up problems for the next government.

ILookAtTheFloor · 13/07/2023 16:26

RebelR · 13/07/2023 16:19

Try not to gloat too much in schools. Support staff are still waiting for their April rise and it won't be this much, despite the "public sector staff" headline.

It's likely to be the blanket £ 1,925 for everyone which is more than 6.5% rise for me personally.

Is Noble being sarcastic I can't quite work it out?

Twyford · 13/07/2023 16:29

He could contribute a large chunk of the cost just by ensuring that very rich people (like Rees Mogg and, er, his wife) actually pay the same proportion of their earnings in tax as nurses and teachers do.

thecatsthecats · 13/07/2023 16:38

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 13/07/2023 14:18

Exactly. The idea that this can somehow be found from efficiency savings in existing school budgets is pie in the sky. There is nothing left to cut.

The teachers and other public sector workers have my full support, but if the government is going to agree to pay increases, then it needs to find the money to pay for them.

I agree about the raises being funded etc, but I don't agree that there aren't inefficiencies in school services.

I used to work in school technology, and we'd review school processes and systems as part of that. The sheer number of schools using (and paying for) a dozen pieces of technology when one or two would do was staggering - it was the norm, not the exception.

(I blame the technology suppliers and a whole range of local authorities for this, not the schools. But schools aren't experts in tech procurement - not their fault, lots of people are bad at it!)

PupInAPram · 13/07/2023 16:40

lucette1001 · 13/07/2023 14:08

Give everybody what they're asking for and when Labour gets in, perhaps a note in the Treasury to say there's no money left.... oops, deja vu

That 'no money left' note is a tradition going back through many labour and tory governments. But sure, buy into the Daily Fail spin.

Timeturnerplease · 13/07/2023 16:42

As an aside, a child in my class (Year 3) came bouncing into class yesterday morning saying ‘Mrs Time, my daddy met the new prime minister yesterday and he’s much nicer than that other one’.

Further prompting revealed that he meant Kier Starmer 😂

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 16:45

kirinm · 13/07/2023 16:12

@noblegiraffe do you work for the NEU? Just out of curiosity rather than being snide. Most posts I've seen elsewhere are not anywhere near as positive as your posts .

No, I don't work for the NEU.

Anyone who doesn't see a 6.5% pay rise for teachers on all points of the pay scale plus extra funding to schools to pay for it as a massive win from this government really hasn't been paying attention.

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Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 16:48

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 16:45

No, I don't work for the NEU.

Anyone who doesn't see a 6.5% pay rise for teachers on all points of the pay scale plus extra funding to schools to pay for it as a massive win from this government really hasn't been paying attention.

i thought you did.

Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 16:48

Or another union?

MissPop · 13/07/2023 16:49

I am so confused from this post.

Is this a good thing or not? And is it being funded?

Hereinthismoment · 13/07/2023 16:50

It’s a good thing if you’re a teacher I think. Not sure if you’re a parent.

kirinm · 13/07/2023 16:51

@noblegiraffe not for teachers teaching 6th form.

noblegiraffe · 13/07/2023 16:52

Translucentwaters · 13/07/2023 16:48

i thought you did.

You thought I worked for the NEU?

No, I don't work for any union. I'm not a rep either.

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