How is Huw Edwards different to Philip Schofield

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Heard this question raised on LBC this morning and was wondering the same thing.

How are the two any different? Both older men engaged with younger men, both cheating on their wives, and both claiming mental health issues post revelation.

Agreed.

Pretty shocking thread on Twitter about GB News presenter and former Sun journalist Dan Wootton. The Sun were happy to protect him though.

https://twitter.com/rubytrubes/status/1679240800310382593

Dan Wooton is a slug !

Not someone sat in a very expensive private hospital having their ego massaged and told there there it's ok. My DF had what used to be called a nervous breakdown when he was a young man. He was in a psychiatric hospital. He often described his hellish experience and said it was worse than any physical pain. This was in the 1940s and responses like yours make me think that our attitude to mental health problems hasn't progressed a jot.

It would be interesting to know (or maybe I’m just being nosey) if HE has been sectioned or whether he’s booked himself into the Priory.
Unfortunately we hear so often about the lack of mental health care for Joe Public, lack of beds, shortage of staff etc….bed seems to have been found here pretty quick.

Some good questions for The Sun. I do not think they've paid due diligence to their investigations and reporting.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/jul/11/five-questions-for-the-sun-on-its-story-about-the-suspended-bbc-presenter

I would also like to know how much the young person's parents were paid by The Sun?

Paying for photos does seem to me extra sleazy. But is there even any proof this happened as they say no criminal offence has been committed

We really are going to need a 'male in position of influence is a sleaze' section on MN aren't we?!

The point I’m making is that people are talking as if they know that this stuff is true. Passing info off as facts. And so the story grows. So much of this case is based on unproven gossip. These are peoples’ lives (the young people, their families, HE’s family and HE himself) that are being severely impacted. We are all responsible for stating what we know to be true, not passing on supposition or gossip as if it’s fact and constructing judgments on that basis.

Talk about innocent until proven guilty!!
At this moment in time the only one who knows the truth is HE, all the rest is paper speculation and tittle tattle.
Those who call the seventeen year old a child have obviously never met a scheming crafty seventeen year old who has found a way of making serious money, it’s their life and they make their choices seventeen or not.
HE has been hounded out and it’s absolutely disgusting that the Sun newspaper has destroyed his reputation and published allegations without proof, the police say he has not broken any laws.
There a thousands of naked photos traded on the internet every day and no one gives a damn unless it makes a sensational headline.

Wow. Blaming a 17 year old for the acts of a grown man. Great. 🙄

They are both disgusting.
However, I find in current times the more happy and content a person seems, the more people want to tear them down and see them fall flat on their face. That is a big difference between Phillip and Huw. Because Huw has pre-existing mental health problems they will be more gentle with him. I think ultimately the result will be the same. He won’t read the news again.

Maybe it’s clever that neither have contacted people that are underage in the eye of the law. I don’t see the difference. However the law is the law. Now both are bullied by the press. However if it’s true and large amounts of money have been paid to a Young vulnerable person that isn’t ok. However the mental health issue may have caused this behaviour or not. I wonder how the young persons mental health is personally.

H.E was paying for a service (whether we agree with this type of transaction or not) PS had a large degree of influence over the other person's future career, a reason for many companies to frown on inter personnel relationships

No not blaming a seventeen year old at all, what I’m saying is it’s a ridiculous suggestion to say that a seventeen year old doesn’t have capacity to be a crafty scheming money maker.
You and no one else knows what happened, it’s all rumour, speculation and totally destructive to HE and his family.
Anyone who thinks HE is unique and that this isn’t a daily occurrence a hundred times a day on the internet needs to think again.

The media coverage is so different it is really interesting. Have you noticed they keep referring to the individual as a "young person" and keeping the gender under the radar. I'm pretty sure I've read that it was a male and if it were a female I'm sure they would just refer to the person as a female in all the articles?

No. I dont think its right to speculate.

In my opinion they are both gross. You can act legally but still act in an inappropriate and sleazy manner. I am also bothered that there is much talk about their mental health- what about the mental health of the very young people they were targeting?- noone ever seems to be talking about that.

What bothers me is this recurring pattern of rich, powerful men targeting very young people for sex. Sure, it may not be technically illegal but I have a 16 year old son. If a 60 year old rich powerful man was sending him money for nude photos or trying to have sex with him it wouldnt be much comfort to think "well, at least its not illegal!". I'd be absolutely disgusted by it. Ethics are important indicators of who we are as people and whilst famous people have an absolute right to their private lives, behaviour like this does indicate something about them and how their use the imbalance of power. It just does.

I can’t get my head around why a lot of people seem to be ignoring the newer allegations, some of which have been verified as true by the BBC (threatening/abusive messages sent to a young person from his phone, sexually suggestive messages sent to colleagues, all confirmed as having come from his phone number or social media accounts). There is clearly a pattern of sexually inappropriate behaviour and abuse of position here.

Where has HE's wife said that she is sticking by him?

Vicky Flind released a fairly factual statement outlining the current situation. I didn't see anything about her sticking by him. As far as I can see, she made a statement to stop the endless speculation on social media. I think she was pretty brave to do so.

I'm gutted for her. Imagine finding out your marriage is essentially a sham in such a public way, and then having people criticise her with no idea of the facts!

@Passthechocolatesplease saying a 17 year old is scheming and essentially of bad character is blaming a 17 year old. Of course it is. 🙄

Making out an adult is the victim, falling prey to the seductive wiles of a 17 year and doesn't have any choice.

You are right in saying nobody knows what has actually happened. I personally believe it's a smokescreen for more serious political events.

But I certainly wouldn't blame a 17 year old and not a grown up adult for their actions.

I agree. If a 20 year old posted that her 60 year old male colleague was sending her suggestive texts and it made her feel uncomfortable everyone would be advising her to report it as sexual harrassment. It doesnt suddenly make it ok because he's on the telly a lot.

An ex Lib Dem politician, can't for the life of me recall the name, on Eamonn Holmes's breakfast news show this morning referred to the person involved as 'he', 'the young lad/man' a few times and wasn't corrected. Do you think even journalists are getting tired of the constant obscuring of sex here, and have given up the pretence?

PS has a sexual relationship with someone he knew from when PS was an adult and the boy was 12. That nothing sexual happened until the boy was legal age is irrelevant. Its grooming. By a paedophile.

HE paid a 16/17yo for sexual images of them.

Both fucking grim. But one is grimmer than the other yes?

Neither have done anything illegal.

Absolutely this.