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Thread 27 - Sunak : the Ship is Sinking, Hold Your Nerve!

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DuncinToffee · 26/06/2023 14:10

In the voice of Cpl Jones.

"Don't panic Capt Sunak"

"Hold your nerve"

"They don't like it up em".

Previous https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4823678-thread-25-sunak-peerages-privileges-the-covid-inquiry?page=1

We have a choice between extremely bad alternative outcomes

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Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 09:48

DuncinToffee · 12/07/2023 09:22

Just relax everyone, Truss is on the case, she is launching a new project named 'Growth Commission'

Let me guess - sponsored by Tufton Street.

DuncinToffee · 12/07/2023 10:41

Simon Case is making quite the u-turn and distancing himself

Cabinet Secretary Simon Case rejects Boris Johnson's claim that Sue Gray's Partygate report was biased at #Pacac committee.

"We found no evidence that Sue's report was affected by party political considerations.. I'm not sure the timeline as we now understand it quite works."

Case points the finger at Cabinet Office ministers for deciding to use the "prima facie" verdict on Sue Gray breaking civil service code.

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Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 11:37

So now we know what Dorries has been doing for the last year - no, not constituency work, no, not GBeebies, no, not planning a come back on I'm a Celebrity...

She's written a book about 'the plot' to get rid of Johnson. To be published 3 days before the Party conference.

The Conservatives are one big happy strong and stable family.

twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1679040657166331905?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 11:38

DuncinToffee · 12/07/2023 10:41

Simon Case is making quite the u-turn and distancing himself

Cabinet Secretary Simon Case rejects Boris Johnson's claim that Sue Gray's Partygate report was biased at #Pacac committee.

"We found no evidence that Sue's report was affected by party political considerations.. I'm not sure the timeline as we now understand it quite works."

Case points the finger at Cabinet Office ministers for deciding to use the "prima facie" verdict on Sue Gray breaking civil service code.

Blimey who finally found their integrity from down the back of the sofa.

mibbelucieachwell · 12/07/2023 11:38

What an absolute failure! Can't find projects to spend the money on 😮? At best that's extremely incompetent. At worst the money was never going to be spent was it? 😡😡😡😡

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 11:47

"Are you aware of any forceful communications..it might be described ...from the lingering member of Mid Bedfordshire sent to senior civil servants threatening I suppose to use her own platform of the Commons and her own tv programme to get to the bottom of why she hasn't been given a peerage..."

Lingering member.
Has she done ANY work as an MP over the last year?

twitter.com/bestforbritain/status/1679075838795345920?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 11:52

mibbelucieachwell · 12/07/2023 11:38

What an absolute failure! Can't find projects to spend the money on 😮? At best that's extremely incompetent. At worst the money was never going to be spent was it? 😡😡😡😡

Housing crisis, what housing crisis?

Cornettoninja · 12/07/2023 12:06

Christ, you lose one day catching up with this thread and it’s a clusterfuck of ‘fuck me’s’ and ‘bloody hell’s’.

Its exhausting! What happened to the days politics was was boring af?

StormShadow · 12/07/2023 12:12

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 11:47

"Are you aware of any forceful communications..it might be described ...from the lingering member of Mid Bedfordshire sent to senior civil servants threatening I suppose to use her own platform of the Commons and her own tv programme to get to the bottom of why she hasn't been given a peerage..."

Lingering member.
Has she done ANY work as an MP over the last year?

twitter.com/bestforbritain/status/1679075838795345920?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

She's paid her offspring to work for her, according to Twitter. Does that count?

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 12:15

Yes it is amazing how both her children are necessary for the smooth running of her office and that they both seem to be on the highest bands of the payscale.

DuncinToffee · 12/07/2023 12:19

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 12:15

Yes it is amazing how both her children are necessary for the smooth running of her office and that they both seem to be on the highest bands of the payscale.

like Johnny Mercer's wife and her 200% payrise

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Cornettoninja · 12/07/2023 12:32

DuncinToffee · 12/07/2023 12:19

like Johnny Mercer's wife and her 200% payrise

They want to be careful, apparently pay rises are causing inflation and I keep seeing reports come to light that an awful lot of significant pay days can be allocated to tories and their pay masters.

jgw1 · 12/07/2023 13:12

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 12:15

Yes it is amazing how both her children are necessary for the smooth running of her office and that they both seem to be on the highest bands of the payscale.

Perhaps like Farage having to employ his wife at taxpayers expense, no one else will put up with working for her?

jgw1 · 12/07/2023 13:13

Cornettoninja · 12/07/2023 12:32

They want to be careful, apparently pay rises are causing inflation and I keep seeing reports come to light that an awful lot of significant pay days can be allocated to tories and their pay masters.

The wrong kind of pay rise causes inflation. By that of cause we mean pay rises for the poor who don't deserve it, and would only spend the money. Payrises for those who already have too much money doesn't cause inflation because they just put the money in tax havens.

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 13:29

With apologies to anyone that's not on Twitter a thread from Ben Zaranko at IFS on the Independent Pay Review Bodies recommendations and the economic and political choices being made.

"There are rumours that the government could overrule the independent Pay Review Bodies’ recommendations and offer a lower pay rise to public sector workers, due to concerns about the possible impact on inflation.

A few thoughts 🧵"

https://twitter.com/benzaranko/status/1679077645366046720?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

I've copied the last 3 tweets but you do really need the full thread for the full context.

"What we might see instead is the government accept PRB recommendations, but provide no additional funding. That would mean no borrowing-fuelled demand injection, no need for tax rises – but would mean cuts to non-paybill public service budgets."

"That would be tricky. Schools, for instance, might have to cut back on things like textbooks, science experiments, school trips, cleaning services, etc, in order to meet the costs of higher teacher pay from within the same budget. Or, public services will employ fewer staff."

"In sum: it’s not costless to accept the PRB recommendations (higher borrowing and possibly higher inflation; higher taxes; or cuts to other budgets). But it’s not costless to overrule them either (inevitable strike action; further hit to recruitment and retention). [end]"

https://twitter.com/benzaranko/status/1679077683530018819?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Kiwano · 12/07/2023 16:22

Simon case accepting that there was nothing biased about Sue Gray's report, having spent months insinuating the opposite -

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1679058892335075328

And Nadine Dorries, aka the lingering member for Mid Bedfordshire, being shopped for her threatening communications about her peerage -

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1679075838795345920

Not a good day for the Johnson faction

https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1679058892335075328

Kiwano · 12/07/2023 16:23

Oops, sorry, I see that I am late with the Dorries news.

Kiwano · 12/07/2023 16:25

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 12:15

Yes it is amazing how both her children are necessary for the smooth running of her office and that they both seem to be on the highest bands of the payscale.

Ah, that explains why she's hanging on. Can't have the kids on the dole, et alone actually having to do some work for their living, can we?l

Piggywaspushed · 12/07/2023 16:33

One of these days I shall say what I know of one of Nadine's offspring but it is very outing and Nadine might be looking.

Piggywaspushed · 12/07/2023 16:34

Johnny Mercer's wife, aka the dreadful bully?

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 16:38

Going from what was asked at the Select Committee earlier today re: Dorries threatening Sunak/Downing Street with raising her peerage in the HoC - I think that's probably closer to why she's hanging on. It's leverage.

But paying her children wages in the meantime is obviously a bonus.

Public duty obviously meaningless in this instance.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 12/07/2023 16:41

Did you hear Carol Vorderman on LBC earlier and her account of the abuse she's been subjected to by the Mercers? And how their mates in Parliament are now using parliamentary time to do the same?

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 16:48

I only heard a snippet- something about 60 tweets referencing CV in a day and then discussing CV on a podcast.

Given she's employed by an MP (albeit her husband) and paid for under MPs expenses neither of those actions sounded very professional by Mrs M.

itsgettingweird · 12/07/2023 16:54

Cornettoninja · 12/07/2023 12:06

Christ, you lose one day catching up with this thread and it’s a clusterfuck of ‘fuck me’s’ and ‘bloody hell’s’.

Its exhausting! What happened to the days politics was was boring af?

You may have lost a day but I love your summary on return - spot on 🤣🤣

Notonthestairs · 12/07/2023 16:54

But this is the problem with MPs employing family members. There isn't the requisite professional distance between MP and support staff.

I understand it works to perhaps keep couples together/ensure MPs keep their junk to themselves (sometimes) or whole families together (!) but I question whether it's a good use of money.

That goes for both sides of the House - I'm sure Labour/LIBdems etc etc also employ family members. It's messy although clearly messier for some more than others.

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