Missing Titan Sub! Thread 4

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As thread 3 is filling up here is a new one. For the benefit of those just joining the conversation;

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Yes we know they're billionaires
We can discuss things that are horrifying and ghoulish, thanks for your opinion.
Migrant boats are sad too

As you were 😁

Mallison and Chapman managed to survive for 84 hours and 30 minutes, with only 64 hours worth of oxygen left when they ran into trouble.

I am holding hope for those on board the Titan still, until it's too late.

"See" how? It's pitch fucking black down there. You'd have to rope the two together to ensure one could visually track the other, and that's going to increase the risk to both. The best you're going to be able to do is say "yeah, it blew up. We think". Is that information worth risking additional lives? You could have a remote down there, I guess, but, again, you're risking very expensive tech for very marginal gain, especially above and beyond the submersible's ability to ping the surface craft. But if the ROV loses visual contact with the submersible at any point, it's usefulness is basically done.

I totally agree. When I read that they got lost for 2 hours last year, I am absolutely stunned that went down again.

I am still remaining optimistic and am hoping for a miracle.

@AlligatorPsychopath well you obviously know far more than me. Thanks for shedding light as to why it would have been ruled out.

I linked this on the prior thread, it is great

Deepest submarine cable is 1600 m, Titanic at about 3800m
https://twitter.com/brettroberts/status/1448186962804764674?s=20

If something promising was found, when would they release the info? Right away, or later?

I believe the ROV on site can see “as far as a tennis court” so really not far in the scheme of things drifting etc, sadly

Hoping for positive news with the deployment of Victor 6000 from the Atalante and the ROV from Horizon Artic 🤞🏽

I don’t get it either. Did they just think oh well it turned out ok last time so it’ll be ok again?! Not good enough.

also praying for a miricle.

I was watching the helicopters on Flight Radar earlier to see if they stopped and hovered at any point hinting at potential developments (of what, I don't know - clutching at straws).

I'm not saying absolutely nothing could have been done to make the Titan safer, obviously. I'm in no position to make that assessment, and better equipped people no doubt will. I'm just saying you can't apply land thinking and land technology to a scenario thousands of metres underwater. It is - quite literally - a different world. You can't see. You can't use most land technology. The pressure on every part of the craft is thousands of times that on the surface. You can't just rely on something being where you left it. If it were as simple as chucking a couple of Apple AirTags in there, it would have been done.

From interviews the CEO seems pretty arrogant and more concerned about making a name for himself than actual safety. He says about not employing older people with experience on subs etc as it's not as 'inspirational' as young people, amongst taking pride in circumventing regulations etc. Of course I wouldn't wish ill fate on him, but it seems quite clear that this wasn't about giving people the safest possible chance for a once in a lifetime opportunity, but a chance to promote himself and his company.

What type of maniac dives to 4km underwater in a submersible made partly from second hand scaffolding poles? That isn't 'innovative' it is horribly amateur. The hubris of the man is breath taking.

This is one of the most horrifying things ever.

Does anyone know if the tapping sounds have stopped now?

BBC still calling a ‘rescue’ mission. I’d say they’ve now fallen asleep and passed due to lack of oxygen or hypothermia. At least they would’ve have suffered but the anguish and terror leading it to it would’ve been unbearable.

Well, yes. It's the Icarus story - but underwater.

Wouldn’t have suffered*

I also keep thinking that some of them may have remained alive / awake for longer than others and had to watch others pass out in front of them. It’s awful.

It’s so so awful.

Try reading all the various links and posts that have been done. The poles were ballast.

That is what someone who has been down in Titan on a previous trip reported - however, this does mean that there aren't emergency rations on board. We don't know if there is an emergency water/food ration on board just that passengers didn't take a large amount of food/water on themselves.

This programme, highlighted in the last thread, is worth a watch. It's all about the submersible that is down there.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001d2ml

It’s a bit like the sinking of the Titanic
…… oh, hang on

From the programme it's clear that there wouldn't be room for food and water. Basically all they are living on now is oxygen and hopefully a working CO2 scrubber.