Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 3

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Tomorrow is the Commons vote on the Privileges Committee's findings that Boris Johnson deliberately misled Parliament over Downing Street parties during lockdown

The vote is a free vote rather than being whipped either way. Tories have been told that the vote will be a one-line whip, meaning they will not be obliged to participate.

Boris Johnson is believed to have advised his backers to not vote against it.

Michael Gove confirmed on live tv that he will abstain

Tobias Elwood has u-turned on abstaining after hearing stories from voters

Rishi Sunak, who knows

,But I dare you to go into any hospital, GP surgery or anywhere where there are NHS workers and spout your nonsense about what that lying piece of shit did

And repeat the rubbish they posted here about NHS staffrooms.

Notice the faux outrage from not reading posts properly and how it's used up another 1/1000th of the breathing space available to call Boris Johnson a lying bastard.

She went on: “Number 10 is full of police officers, full of security people. Why did nobody report this to the Prime Minister so that he was aware of it.”
“Sadly this is all becoming part of a kind of political opportunism for those people who don’t like Boris Johnson’s approach,” she added.

Were they meant to report to the PM that he was at a gathering for his birthday - in case he hadn't noticed?!

Apparently. Some of the people defending Boris Johnson really don't have a high opinion of him!

I do think it's entirely fair to question what the fuck the police officers that live around senior politicians are doing if they aren't reporting crimes they are aware are being committed (or even worse they know are going to be committed).

I'd have to aske people that do have any respect for the police whether this affects that or not ?

I couldn't read thesurrealists posts but I am going to assume they are very angry (and rightly so) and getting a bit too close for comfort to those who think it was only a piece of cake and everyone did the same?

Given what we know about Chequers it's pretty clear that multiple senior police officers closed their eyes to events.

However that doesn't mean Johnson is less culpable.

Just that the rot has spread wider than Number 10.

I think it's fine to be angry and share that opinion. I can certainly cope with opposing views. We have to do so without insults that's all.

These are the same police that were flying drones, looking for convictions ?

Admittedly no one had any respect for them anyway, which is presumably why there hasn't (yet ?) been any outrage there.

Wow.

That's, er, an unusual choice to delete - if it was intentional.

Oh I do have the vim. Sadly these threads are full of Johnson loathers I feel it's my duty to keep sticking my oar in, bit of balance if you like.

Janiie I rarely respond to your posts - I hardly even read them tbh. If I'm also being honest I quite like your dedication to the cause of your ability to argue (not debate really!) the toss over semantics rather than actual facts.

I can step back because I don't believe for one minute anyone seriously can think like you do despite being faced by evidence and I believe it's a game you like playing because you get some sense of something from the fact so many people all home in on just your posts.

I like to believe theres food in everyone and no one could be so totally unempatheitic to another human.

Like I've said it reminds me of the troubled teens I work with who will say anything and everything just for a reaction because they crave validation.

But I really do implore you to stop on these threads right now. We have people on here who couldn't say goodbye to loved ones as they died or at funerals because the rules stopped them - who have watched the PM at the time trying justify his behaviour as apparently a leaving do was essential for morale. These weren't people dying or dead.

We don't need to debate of Johnson lied or not. It's proven. We don't need to debate if he misled parliament - it's also proven.

But we really should respect those who are finally getting their day where it's been proven that whilst they isolated and missed dying family and funerals even Johnson's own party think he didn't follow those rules and lied.

Maybe this game is better picked up on other politics threads where it's less damaging to the mental health of people who genuinely suffered.

There's a time and place for flippant whataboutery and I don't think this is it.

for all those who have experienced validation and a sense of closure from this report. I hope you find peace.

If the police were made aware then the Home Secretary would have been made aware. Patel has been quite quiet of late.

When Johnson came out of hospital after Covid I have always wondered why he went to Chequers and not to No10. We were all meant to be restricting travel and he chose to take a 45 mile, 1 hour 45 minute journey rather than travel the mile back to Downing street.

At the time I wrote to my MP asking the question and was told that No10 is a place of work and Johnson wouldn't have had any respite from the peace and noise of office life there.

Well subsequently we've learned that a party complete with DJs, broken swings, vomiting juniors and suitcases of booze can be kicking off downstairs and Johnson can't hear it.

Even after he'd been unwell he couldn't comply. Neither did the security people around him stop him swerving the rules imposed on us all.

She has been honoured with a title

'But I really do implore you to stop on these threads right now. We have people on here who couldn't say goodbye to loved ones'

We suffered like most people. Illness, people separated for horrible lengths of time. I certainly am not flippant about the suffering we all endured.

My point has always been they are 2 separate things. The restrictions were there to stop community spread. Workplaces, like Downing Street and tiktok dancing were different as these people were with each other every day. The risk was already there and mitigations like testing were in place.

Granted the Christmas party with folk dancing was of course a rule break <no ministers present> but sandwiches in an office, at work, imo was not.

Yes ask to move to politics if you feel it would reduce some of the insults and unpleasantness, ironically always aimed at me.

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1671127362568704000?s=20

The Conservative Party (sound on)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-50-lies-gaffes-26013022

Ah didn't realise Patel was also the recipient of an honour.

He's had to throw the net quite wide hasn't he? All the better for keeping people quiet.

Speaking of quiet any word from Sunak, Braverman, Hunt or Dowden today? No? Conservative leadership at its finest - hiding in Westminster and hoping nobody remembers that we pay them to lead.

"My point has always been they are 2 separate things. The restrictions were there to stop community spread. Workplaces, like Downing Street and tiktok dancing were different as these people were with each other every day. The risk was already there and mitigations like testing were in place."

Please point to where in the Guidelines it allowed colleagues who worked together every day to have Wine Time Fridays?

Sunak's plan is obviously to stay in office by saying and doing as little as he possibly can so as not to offend anyone. We have a vacuum for a PM.

Yep. Now that Johnson's no longer hiding in the fridge, Sunak's moved into it until the election.

TikTok dances

Masks ✅
Social Distanced ✅
Cake ❌
Alcohol ❌

Thanks to those who posted kind comments on my post last night.

I also came in to see, arrogantly perhaps, whether my post might have had an impression on MN's very,own Boris fan. But I guess not.

What can I say other than those of us who worked in the NHS in 2020-2021 will never forget what we saw and did in those really awful times. Some of us couldn't even go home at the end of the day because my husband needed to go into school and I couldn't risk infecting him. So I stayed in a friends Airbnb near the hospital for months.

I certainly wasn't going home to Abba parties and my Friday afternoons were spent sorting out the rotas for the weekend to ensure that we had cover at a time when 40% of the staff at any one time were infected - not through parties in staff rooms, because we were only allowed in there on a tight rota and kept 2m apart, but through working in a hospital with a high infection rate with patients dying in front of us every day and no adequate PPE.