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Boris stands down as MP with immediate effect part 3

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DuncinToffee · 18/06/2023 16:56

Tomorrow is the Commons vote on the Privileges Committee's findings that Boris Johnson deliberately misled Parliament over Downing Street parties during lockdown

The vote is a free vote rather than being whipped either way. Tories have been told that the vote will be a one-line whip, meaning they will not be obliged to participate.

Boris Johnson is believed to have advised his backers to not vote against it.

Michael Gove confirmed on live tv that he will abstain

Tobias Elwood has u-turned on abstaining after hearing stories from voters

Rishi Sunak, who knows

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PerkingFaintly · 20/06/2023 11:40

Rhondaa · 20/06/2023 11:18

Vim! There's a word I haven't heard for years Grin.

Oh I do have the vim. Sadly these threads are full of Johnson loathers I feel it's my duty to keep sticking my oar in, bit of balance if you like.

Why?

Cornettoninja · 20/06/2023 12:10

PerkingFaintly · 20/06/2023 11:40

Why?

I’d like to know that too. At the point that there have been investigations and debates galore largely evidencing the outcome we now have, I fail to see the merit in goading people who both feel and have had validated the fact that have been let down by those they entrusted with power over their lives.

pointythings · 20/06/2023 12:15

Balance is not the same as 'believe my favourite politician no matter what and assume everything said against him is motivated by politics.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

SerendipityJane · 20/06/2023 12:15

Cornettoninja · 20/06/2023 12:10

I’d like to know that too. At the point that there have been investigations and debates galore largely evidencing the outcome we now have, I fail to see the merit in goading people who both feel and have had validated the fact that have been let down by those they entrusted with power over their lives.

The time people waste with Janiie is time they can't be anywhere else doing more damage to Brand Boris and therefore crowds out the debate.

IClaudine · 20/06/2023 12:17

SerendipityJane · 20/06/2023 12:15

The time people waste with Janiie is time they can't be anywhere else doing more damage to Brand Boris and therefore crowds out the debate.

Good point.

Cornettoninja · 20/06/2023 12:17

Now you’ve made me all humphy because I know your right @SerendipityJane Wink

DuncinToffee · 20/06/2023 12:22

It also keeps this thread active so more people might read it

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Rhondaa · 20/06/2023 12:22

@SerendipityJane just because you can't debate without wanging on about bots and 'bints' doesn't mean I shouldn't post. I know it rattles your cage that there is still support for Johnson, you mustn't take it so personally. We live in a democracy not North Korea, opposing views are allowed.

PerkingFaintly · 20/06/2023 12:23

Yes, I'm sure that's the plan on paper, and in previous years it may have worked.

Recently all they've done is bumped these threads – damaging Brand Boris further!

Someone did point this out on an earlier thread, but I didn't like to make too much of it in case it caused a rethink...

I just hope none of the genuine MNers here have been harmed by it or have invested too much.

PerkingFaintly · 20/06/2023 12:23

Ha, x-post with Duncin being more succinct!

jgw1 · 20/06/2023 12:25

DuncinToffee · 20/06/2023 12:22

It also keeps this thread active so more people might read it

Or even if they don't read it, see it near the top of active threads and are reminded how angry they are with the Tories.

PerkingFaintly · 20/06/2023 12:25

You see, that post above is typical. Throws out a little soundbite intended to wound and make people engage.

But it's just a tired rehash of previous goads and absurdities. If it ever had a sting, it lost it long ago.

jgw1 · 20/06/2023 12:26

Rhondaa · 20/06/2023 12:22

@SerendipityJane just because you can't debate without wanging on about bots and 'bints' doesn't mean I shouldn't post. I know it rattles your cage that there is still support for Johnson, you mustn't take it so personally. We live in a democracy not North Korea, opposing views are allowed.

@Janiie just in the interests of factual accuracy I feel obliged to point out that there has been no opposition to the known facts that Boris is a liar and broke the law and no debate on that subject.

If you choose to support a lawbreaker and liar, that is up to you.

StormShadow · 20/06/2023 12:27

I thought that might happen.

DuncinToffee · 20/06/2023 12:28

Job titles don't stack up

https://twitter.com/CatNeilan/status/1671102927706914822?s=20

Exc: A 3rd person given an honour from Boris Johnson was listed with inflated job title

Ben Mallet, granted an OBE for "political & public service" is cited as "Former Strategy Director for the General Election"

One source said: “He was no such thing.”

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PerkingFaintly · 20/06/2023 12:28

Wow. I hadn't realised Bailey was on the Jobs for Johnsonites list.

Thank you, IClaudine, looks like this thread does still have a lot to offer.Grin

SerendipityJane · 20/06/2023 12:30

In next Saturdays Mail:

Dear Readers,

It is with an effusion of both abashment and bemusement that I take to the keyboard today, musing upon the perplexities of the theatrical drama that has recently unfurled in the hallowed halls of our Houses of Parliament.

First, allow me to furnish you with an allegory, one plucked fresh from the verdant groves of the classics. Imagine the noble and astute Odysseus, weaving his many beguiling tales to outwit the Cyclops, and then being chastised by his men for his perceived 'untruths.' Surely, we must give allowance for rhetoric, that ancient art of persuasion, in the pursuit of greater goals.

Now, what peculiar pageantry we have been subjected to in the parliamentary pulpit! The political theatre reverberates with the melodious outcry of the opposition, singing the chorus of deceit and duplicity. But is it not politics to embellish the truth like a potter molding clay, shaping it to fit the convolutions of our parliamentary procedure? This is an arena where the deftness of a linguistic matador can dodge the charging bull of controversy, where facts may be dressed in the garb of metaphors and hyperbole.

I find myself no longer amidst the wood-paneled pews of Parliament but rather standing, gobsmacked, on the shores of Kafka's penal colony. And with a dismayed shake of my shaggy blond mane, I am left contemplating the profound absurdity of this bureaucratic penalization, so strongly reminiscent of 'The Trial'.

Indeed, it is a lamentable fate, to find oneself so fiercely beset by the very institution that once stood as a bastion of free speech, a forum of vivacious debate, and the steadfast sentinel of British sovereignty. Are we now to toil under the oppressive yoke of stringent literalism, where every uttered word must be scrutinized under the harsh lens of judicial precision?

Let us not forgo the grand tradition of oratory flamboyance that is as quintessentially British as afternoon tea, for the sterile parlance of an automaton. Yes, dear friends, it was in the spirit of this age-old tradition that I once stepped onto the parliamentary stage, armed with nothing more than my command of language, my unfaltering belief in the resplendent future of Great Britain, and a mop of hair unruly as my will to serve this great nation.

Alas, here we stand at a precipice, an existential crossroads, contemplating the fate of our democracy. Should we succumb to the tyranny of literalism or hold steadfast to the traditions that have shaped our country? The choice, dear readers, is ours to make.

Cordially,
Boris Johnson

jgw1 · 20/06/2023 12:30

PerkingFaintly · 20/06/2023 12:28

Wow. I hadn't realised Bailey was on the Jobs for Johnsonites list.

Thank you, IClaudine, looks like this thread does still have a lot to offer.Grin

They really are determined to put forward as many arguments as possible for the abolition of the HoLs.

SerendipityJane · 20/06/2023 12:31

Oops, forgot to post this:

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SerendipityJane · 20/06/2023 12:32

jgw1 · 20/06/2023 12:30

They really are determined to put forward as many arguments as possible for the abolition of the HoLs.

At some point the palace may have to get involved. I suspect Charles has a good memory.

DuncinToffee · 20/06/2023 12:36

No 10 still refusing to say what Rishi Sunak thinks about the privileges committee report into Boris Johnson, beyond the fact that he “respects the vote” last night. Won’t say how PM would have voted if he’d been in parliament.

I don't think the question is going away any time soon

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Cornettoninja · 20/06/2023 12:43

Hahaha Boris thinks he’s got a mane GrinGrin

He wishes he was bon jovi doesn’t he?

Cornettoninja · 20/06/2023 12:47

Ah! Was that chat gpt?

Proof the dm have wasted their money, I’m sure it wouldn’t have cost a million for the right to use his name on gpt articles, you don’t actually need him.

RafaistheKingofClay · 20/06/2023 12:54

TomPinch · 20/06/2023 09:56

Hooray for Jess Phillips.

(who spoke after two Tory time-servers rambled about the lockdown and had to be reprimanded by the Deputy Speaker)

The idea that Boris Johnson did not understand the regulations—it is a cracking defence on his part because it basically means that he is too stupid. He’s either lying or he’s thick. Somebody said earlier they were not mutually exclusive. I think that is the case in this instance. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

Particularly enjoyed the last sentence.

I always wondered this about whether Boris was stupid or the buffoon thing being an act. I don’t see that they have to be mutually exclusive. The loveable buffoon thing could equally be an act to cover his stupidity.

He’s well educated. It’s not necessarily the same thing as clever.

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