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Why do so many UK women post like this?

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user1477391263 · 15/06/2023 13:12

I'm British but a permanent resident of another country, which I moved to 25 years ago before social media was really a thing; my social media has people from all over the world, but the majority are not British.

I've come to realize that Facebook groups (etc.) that have British posters, such as local FB groups from my hometown, sound really different in the way people (or women, anyway) post!

There's a certain style, and it's very noticeable. It consists of using no punctuation apart from commas, no capitals, and putting kisses (x, or xx, or even xxx..... etc.) on the end of almost every post - sometimes on the end of every sentence. I rarely see this in women of other nationalities, even those who are not native speakers of English. Not every UK woman posts like this, for sure, but a lot of them do!

When did this become a thing? The oddest thing is that most of the women I know who post like this are perfectly intelligent people! I've had to sort of consciously train myself to (when reading a UK woman's online writing) mentally separate the posting style and the woman's assumed level of intelligence/education, because I know from experience that even well-read women with a lot of education quite often post like this.

I know it doesn't really...."matter," but I'm just a bit puzzled about when and why this became such a trend and why it seems to be so UK-specific. Is it about appearing friendly?

OP posts:
FrostyFifi · 17/06/2023 21:39

Im not taking that out on people on anonymous forums who disagree with me or say something that I don't like

You were the one who responsed to me in the first place. You had no need to do that.
If I'd said something controversial or argumentative then I'd absolutely take it on the chin getting responses robust responses. But this has just been utter nonsense.
Don't dig at people and then complain when they respond to you.

SiliconHeaven · 17/06/2023 21:41

Well that went downhill very quickly

FrostyFifi · 17/06/2023 21:42

I also have two 'native' languages, and I think it makes you a bit more aware of the importance of grammar and punctuation, even if you're not aware of it at the time!

Oh cool - can you say which or would it be outing?
Mine isn't perfect by any means of course, as we've seen by the missing comma controversy.

ThursdayFreedom · 17/06/2023 21:48

GottaGirlcrush · 15/06/2023 14:03

Op doesn't even bother to disguise the fact she is looking for a chance to badmouth the u.k and u.k women!

@GottaGirlcrush

yep. Other threads if this nature tonight too!

carpet anyone?

mathanxiety · 17/06/2023 21:56

Pringleface · 15/06/2023 23:36

This isn’t the case.

I’m from a very working class background with a limited secondary education. I left school at 16 and later got qualifications to get me into university. I’ve always been a reader and have had a career as a part time journalist as well as writing PR stuff, newsletters, corporate announcements, websites and lots of other stuff.

It’s down to the fact that written communication isn’t valued, the rise of text messaging, the decrease in people’s attention spans and the expectation that people should just be able to type any old shit and if anyone questions it they’re a disgusting snob.

How many times have you seen someone post on MN that as long as posters get their feelings across, their language doesn’t matter? How many times have you seen someone post on MN and their post is unintelligible? The language does matter.

I think you underestimate the extent to which you are an outlier.

The only people in my class WhatsApp (my class finished secondary school in the early 80s) who post as the OP describes are people who left school early and who have retained their teenage identity of working class who - to quote a song popular of that era - "don't need no education". Hence leaving school at 16, which was not the norm in Ireland at that time. Hence also never really reading much and having no interest in any further education. They're not unintelligent - they're employed, they're homeowners in some cases - they're just people who have a culture that doesn't value literacy.

LaDamaDeElche · 17/06/2023 21:59

FrostyFifi · 17/06/2023 21:39

Im not taking that out on people on anonymous forums who disagree with me or say something that I don't like

You were the one who responsed to me in the first place. You had no need to do that.
If I'd said something controversial or argumentative then I'd absolutely take it on the chin getting responses robust responses. But this has just been utter nonsense.
Don't dig at people and then complain when they respond to you.

I originally posted because I thought you hadn't understood that the poster was pointing out your punctuation mistake, and that you called her rude as she said something about expats not knowing how to use commas. You then went on to post some pretty disproportionate responses back to me. It's all there in black and white. You have been defensive to the extreme to people saying nothing bad at all to you. So stop playing the victim here, because you're not.

coradelia · 17/06/2023 22:22

I've come to realize that Facebook groups (etc.) that have British posters, such as local FB groups from my hometown, sound really different in the way people (or women, anyway) post!

There's a certain style, and it's very noticeable. It consists of using no punctuation apart from commas, no capitals, and putting kisses (x, or xx, or even xxx..... etc.) on the end of almost every post - sometimes on the end of every sentence

I posted a thread about this a couple of years ago. Facebook is rife with it, and people from the UK. 'X' as punctuation. Not my friends but women generally. We used to call them huns or fluffy.

I know people who do this to fit in.

rabbithearted · 17/06/2023 22:54

I only send kisses to my DP, feels too overly familiar to send to friends never mind strangers! But I do feel like this feels very judgey. A lot of people aren't perfect typists especially when they feel like they don't need to be on a casual social media app

renthead · 18/06/2023 00:56

I only send kisses to my DP, feels too overly familiar to send to friends never mind strangers! But I do feel like this feels very judgey. A lot of people aren't perfect typists especially when they feel like they don't need to be on a casual social media app

The point is that this is an almost solely British phenomenon (my socials are pretty much half North American and half UK and I see this communication style all the time on the UK side and very minimally on the other, amongst posters of a similar social class. I don't think it's judgy so much as a social commentary. It's actually quite fascinating. If Kate Fox had written Watching the English 20 years later, I wonder if this topic would feature in some way.

PensionPanic123 · 18/06/2023 01:54

Could it be that native English speakers are less concerned about demonstrating they have good written English?

PensionPanic123 · 18/06/2023 01:55

I see lots of kisses being used and also the dreaded 'yano' instead of 'you know'.

User16387640 · 18/06/2023 06:18

Kisses are something that should be confined to greetings cards for children

coradelia · 18/06/2023 07:53

I would add that I'm not talking about spelling and grammar. It's the kisses at the end of each bloody sentence. I don't believe they're literally to replace punctuation but to denote friendliness or fit in, quite possibly.

Facebook extra curricular parent groups are the worst. I'll often be in a minority of parents who don't do it along with the foreigners and men. Though occasionally men do it.

Barney60 · 18/06/2023 13:36

cant say ive noticed xxx 😆

Nanaof1 · 19/06/2023 05:39

PuffinsRocks · 15/06/2023 13:27

It's not exclusively a British thing at all. It was fairly well-reported around 2020 that using punctuation in messages makes you look rude to some people. Some people already did it, as the trend was heading that way, but after seeing those reports I'd imagine lots of people stopped punctuating to soften their words. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/05/909969004/before-texting-your-kid-make-sure-to-double-check-your-punctuation

I think that is one of the silliest things I have ever read. To me, it sounds like more people looking for reasons to be offended and trying to get their way by acting angry at simple punctuation. I can imagine what they would have done with a letter from home back when that's how people communicated.

This way, young people have yet another excuse to not need learning proper punctuation, just like it has with spelling and grammar. FFS! (That's an AGGRESSIVE exclamation point). 😬🤔😖😩

Stewball01 · 20/06/2023 06:34

Weird!!! Xxx

LobeliaSackville · 20/06/2023 19:50

PensionPanic123 · 18/06/2023 01:54

Could it be that native English speakers are less concerned about demonstrating they have good written English?

Nah, this is 100% a UK phenomenon. I'm a native English speaker from North America and I have never encountered an American or Canadian using 'xx' in their writing.

My female English relatives love to tack an 'x' or heart emoji on the end of every text message. It always strikes me as odd and I imagine someone blowing me a kiss at the end of every sentence when speaking. It's kind of the same thing, right? It's pointless and doesn't add much of anything to the communication.

I'm in many Facebook groups and I only ever see it in UK groups. It's also much more frequently used by working class or 'underclass' women. It might sound snobbish, but it's the truth.

PensionPanic123 · 20/06/2023 23:28

LobeliaSackville · 20/06/2023 19:50

Nah, this is 100% a UK phenomenon. I'm a native English speaker from North America and I have never encountered an American or Canadian using 'xx' in their writing.

My female English relatives love to tack an 'x' or heart emoji on the end of every text message. It always strikes me as odd and I imagine someone blowing me a kiss at the end of every sentence when speaking. It's kind of the same thing, right? It's pointless and doesn't add much of anything to the communication.

I'm in many Facebook groups and I only ever see it in UK groups. It's also much more frequently used by working class or 'underclass' women. It might sound snobbish, but it's the truth.

It's interesting that you don't see that in the US. I guess I assumed it was a fairly universal thing.

I think in most countries though upper/middle class people tend to be more reserved. I've noticed it hugely moving from a white collar to a blue collar environment. I much prefer the latter personally. I encounter a lot more bluntness and churlishness as people tend not to sugarcoat things so much but there is also much less bullshit and disingenuousness too.

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