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Why do so many brides continue to wear veils at their wedding?

194 replies

Houseplantmad · 18/05/2023 23:27

Seems a bit weird and antiquated in this day and age ie being “revealed” to a prospective husband at the alter, having been “given away” by your father. Why do so many women continue with it?
in fact, so much of traditional wedding rites are just plain odd in this day and age.

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Maireas · 19/05/2023 07:32

Unveiled! I know what you mean. Poor Jacob. He got Rachel in the end. Like Ross.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 07:34

I will defend to the death everybody's right to wear whatever they like, it affects me not at all. But some insight and analysis as to why you find what is the epitomine of impractical garments " beautiful" wouldn't go amiss. Some bridal gown are so enormous that the bride can't even go the toliet unaided !

No man would ever wear something that disabled him so fundamentally, why this is seen as aspirational needs thinking about. The fundamental message is that on arguably one of the most seismic days of their life women's role is one of essentially useless beauty needs unpicking.

sukiwh · 19/05/2023 07:38

Love a veil! But think the dad giving the bride away is creepy as fuck. Some women seem to like this idea of being this helpless piece of property who is passed from one man to another. There’s something psychosexual about it!

Most wedding traditions are rooted in misogyny or ancient superstition though, and I am definitely a huge hypocrite as I like a lot of them.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 07:39

As for wanting to be a princess, marriage is a serious life long commitment akin to buying a house or a business.

Why not dress as a grown-up to make this very grown-up decision ? Because at not other time except perhaps very old fashioned balls do adult women dress this way. It is odd.

Olios · 19/05/2023 07:39

kethuphouse · 19/05/2023 06:37

For the same reason women continue to give up their own surname and take a man’s name. Embedded sexism.

Or maybe they like tradition or giving their children a shared family name to reinforce their perception of being a secure family unit

sukiwh · 19/05/2023 07:40

afterdropshock · 19/05/2023 07:06

When my daughter was tiny and watching William and Kate get married on tv she saw the veil and said 'oh no, he trapped her'!

Haha like a big butterfly net! Cute 🤭

DarrellRiversCriminalBehaviourOrder · 19/05/2023 07:40

But some insight and analysis as to why you find what is the epitomine of impractical garments " beautiful" wouldn't go amiss.

It isn't supposed to be practical, it's supposed to be beautiful.

If you don't understand the difference, I don't think there's any insight or analysis that can help you.

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 19/05/2023 07:41

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 06:38

I love the intelligent nuanced debate you find on this site😂

Seemed pretty succinct spot on to me 🤷🏻‍♀️

BodegaSushi · 19/05/2023 07:41

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 07:39

As for wanting to be a princess, marriage is a serious life long commitment akin to buying a house or a business.

Why not dress as a grown-up to make this very grown-up decision ? Because at not other time except perhaps very old fashioned balls do adult women dress this way. It is odd.

We get it. You think it's odd. No need to continually repeat it.

sukiwh · 19/05/2023 07:41

Sundaysundaebananasplit · 19/05/2023 04:48

I covered my face. I just thought it looked cool and dramatic!

Valid reasons! We should be doing more as a society to look cool and dramatic!

DarrellRiversCriminalBehaviourOrder · 19/05/2023 07:44

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 07:39

As for wanting to be a princess, marriage is a serious life long commitment akin to buying a house or a business.

Why not dress as a grown-up to make this very grown-up decision ? Because at not other time except perhaps very old fashioned balls do adult women dress this way. It is odd.

It's nothing to do with being a princess. All cultures have traditional wedding attire and this is ours. Yes, we know where it comes from originally but the same goes for men and women have buttons on different sides. Nobody cares except people with superiority complexes.

If you don't want to wear it, then don't. I wore a dupatta over my head at an Indian event once. Is that objectionable?

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 07:46

BodegaSushi · 19/05/2023 07:41

We get it. You think it's odd. No need to continually repeat it.

People asked me to explain why I have explained. Others have basically said
" don't be so mean I want to look pretty"
I am saying fine wear what the hell you like, but don't do it unthinkingly.

peachicecream · 19/05/2023 07:46

Odile13 · 19/05/2023 06:45

P.S. I agree with others - just do want you want at your own wedding, that’s what I did! We kept what we wanted and got rid of the rest.

Stop judging every single thing a woman chooses to do. Men just get to turn up and nobody seems to angst over what they’re doing, but all the things a woman might do are examined in great detail.

The thing is there is a lot of pressure to do this stuff at weddings because it's expected, even though a lot of it is patriarchal bulls*.

We chose to break a lot of traditions, purely because me and my husband wanted equality from the start. That shouldn't be a strange thing to want in this day and age - so there was no being given away, no veil, no walking up the aisle - nothing like that at all.

The number of questions and raised eyebrows we got was quite shocking. It felt like an uphill battle with some family members in the lead up and I actually felt somewhat demeaned by their attitudes to how I/ my husband should be behaving on our wedding day.

It's frankly a complete pain how ingrained these expectations are in people, and it made me question whether we were even doing the right thing to get married at all.

It's not as simple as 'do what you want and stop judging others'. When you plan a wedding you come up against a whole host of societal expectations and judgement and it's very problematic.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 07:47

DarrellRiversCriminalBehaviourOrder · 19/05/2023 07:44

It's nothing to do with being a princess. All cultures have traditional wedding attire and this is ours. Yes, we know where it comes from originally but the same goes for men and women have buttons on different sides. Nobody cares except people with superiority complexes.

If you don't want to wear it, then don't. I wore a dupatta over my head at an Indian event once. Is that objectionable?

Traditional is relative, it is a Victorian invention.

Maireas · 19/05/2023 07:48

Women wore their best dress. Queen Victoria started the white tradition.

honeylulu · 19/05/2023 07:49

I had one. I thought about not but tried a couple on in the shop and loved them. Felt like a "real" bride. I'm a feminist. Wasn't given away. Didn't change my name or use the title Mrs. Didn't give up career to have children. But I did want the white gown and veil because I thought they were beautiful and it was my only real chance to wear them. No regrets and I couldn't care less if anyone thinks I'm "odd". I am quite odd in lots of ways actually, odd and proud!

DarrellRiversCriminalBehaviourOrder · 19/05/2023 07:50

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 07:47

Traditional is relative, it is a Victorian invention.

Traditions didn't exist before Victorians?

Now I know you're on a wind up. Pro tip: the idea is to get everyone else to expect the energy. When you're the one all over it like a rash, it's a fail.

Lampzade · 19/05/2023 07:52

I tried a veil and it looked nice. It really is as simple as that
I didn’t change my surname , so I suppose
I have retained some of my feminist credentials.

Lampzade · 19/05/2023 07:54

Guineapigwoes · 19/05/2023 06:45

I had a cathedral length one (ie really long) I was channelling my inner Maria from the sound of music. Fabulous.

Ha ha. Me too

PurelyBelter · 19/05/2023 07:58

I will defend to the death everybody's right to wear whatever they like
As long as you get to judge against your own, obviously superior, criteria. Pathetic.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 19/05/2023 08:00

Reflecting and I will shortly piss off to everyone's relief, I think it was probably 1981 which really started the big white dress, veil thing.

But absolutely nothing to do with princesses.

BriarHare · 19/05/2023 08:06

If you think the symbolism of veils is outdated, the whole bridal thing is ludicrous too. A virginal white dress, being ‘given away’, changing your name on marriage to that of your husband…

Personally, I really hate veils, but purely for how they look and not what they symbolise.

MyDogStoodOnABee · 19/05/2023 08:13

ohnonowwhat · 19/05/2023 04:07

Because they don't know any better the poor silly, oppressed little things. It's hard for a female to think straight you see when there's a wedding, or flowers, or shiny stuff - plus they're no doubt enslaved to the patriarchy / male gaze / manspreading etc. You should try to save them by starting faux confused threads on Mumsnet, that'll definitely help 👍

It’ll surprise you to know that the men (both young and the second timers) are driving the enquiries, booking and organisation of weddings, not women. This may or may not be connected to the fact that the men are seriously punching too!

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