Accused of stealing dd went mad

[Oneoff45]

Ok so a few days back my daughters friend went into a shop. He was just getting snacks /drink ect. Then 2 people came in. Reached over the counter sort of area and ran out with a handful of vapes. The shop owner did not gey the chance to stop them.

Anyway daughters friend went to pay for his stuff. And the owner accused him of being with the people who stole the vapes he kept telling them he does not know them. Shop owner forced daughters friend to pay for the vapes..

He went back to my daughters house and was upset daughter asked what was wrong. So she took his bank card and went back to the shop and she went mad. Told them he did not know them he has no idea who they are. And told them to give his money back . They refused and said he must be guilty as he paid it .. she then said no you forced him to and went on to tell they you can't accuse people just because they are in the same shop. She also went on to say how they have taken advantage of a man with disabilities. He has autism.

She asked for money back several times. They still refused . She the said she was gonna take 15.00 worth of stuff from their shop. So she started to. They said they were gonna called the police. She said ok. Then we can explain to the police that you have taken advantage of a man with disabilities and we can check at that cctv.

In the end the gave her friends money back .

Did daughter do the right thing ? I mean she got his money back which I suppose is what they wanted . Not sure what I would have done really 🤔

Is the friend known to the shop keeper, and do they know about his autism diagnosis?

Well OP you are certainly improving the story with every drip.
Still lacks a little something.

What she did wasn't wrong.
What she did was fair.
There's more than one type of right.
This is one example of right.

When I was a teenager there was a creepy male shopkeeper. At 15 he would sell my friend cigarettes. This particular time he insisted in putting her change into her breast pocket. I stood in the way and said no. He intimidated my friend because by saying she would not want her parents to know she smoked. He wouldn't hand her his change so I shouted RUN, and swooped up a load of packets of cigarettes. I knew he wouldn't call the police.

She has a keen sense of justice. If it's something you probably wouldn't have done don't assume she doesn't really understand the potential consequences of her actions. She most probably does! Good for her.

Idiot is subjective, but theif? Taking back what's yours?

I think your dd is awesome and would have been proud of one of my sons had stuck up for a friend in that situ, I don’t suppose anyone can argue the way she handled it could have been done better but actually she was seeing red and wanted justice so I get it.

Not sure how the shopkeeper came to the sum of £15 from a vape grab but absolutely s/he should not have accused or demanded money from the friend. Even if he WAS with the thieves he has no solid proof and if police had been present he wouldn’t have had a leg to stand on.

boycott the shop, tell others too. You can’t treat paying customers like that, I wonder if shopkeeper would have done the same if it had been an adult or child with an adult?!

What are you on about?

I think actually your intention must be to permanently deprive so if she'd have said she will return the items later I don't think that's technically theft.

It wasn't hers. She wasn't even there when the incident happened?

@Oneoff45 Your daughter sounds great! I would be very proud if that was mine

Not sure why the OP is avoiding saying how old her DD is?

It's wonderful that she stood up for her friend with SEN, but obviously she should have gone straight to threatening the police/CCTV rather than saying she was going to take stuff.

Yes I agree with that. But by the same tone when thru Said about the police she told them to do it . Them they backed down . Had they really thought thru were in the right they would have had the police come
But yeah I see what you mean

Whats her age got to do with it?

I'm not sure it's got anything to do with it?

I'm just wondering why you won't tell us.

Because its got nothing to do with it

No she didn't. I think we know who the idiot is here....Well done her for sticking up for her friend.

Fair enough. Just an odd thing to be cagey about that's all.

I think her age is relevant -a 12 year old amazing a 30 year old would have threatened them with the police not threatened to steal .

The shopkeeper was right - standing up for her vulnerable friend was right - threatening to steal not ok .

Totally untrue legally. Theft is committed when the item is taken off the shelf. It’s just easier to prove someone is guilty if they’ve passed all the payment points.

Loudly announcing an intent to steal (as the OP’s daughter did) would work just as well as proof.

I have read the post. I agree with @NeatCompactSleeper. Disagreeing with you does not mean someone hadn’t read the post.

Good for her. She stood up for her friend and sorted things out.

🙄 bore off

This, your daughter behaved like a gobby thug and you definitely shouldn't be proud of that. How was the shopkeeper supposed to know he is autistic?? So she threatened to steal something and you're asking if this is ok?

Your daughter did the right thing you ahould be proud of her but the dickheads on here will tell you she's wrong

How's he supposed to know he's autistic. To be honest as soon as he speaks you can tell he has a disability and body language.

But he seemed to know he was with these people that done the stealing. ( which he was not).

Maybe daughter could have dealt with it in a better way. But the shop keeper was wrong. He had no right to take that money.