USA middle & upper mc.. How do they compare to UK & Irish MC & UC

[Merryandbright1]

Big difference for me (have family on the East Coast) is the mc style in the East Coast is very preppy (Ralph Lauren, Kate Spade.. Plus Tommy Hilfigger for the teens), understated. And the children do very expensive activities.

“Anyhoo, here in the US it's all about the $$.”

Not classy.

In IRELAND?! Really? Gosh, that is surprising…

The same can be said about the British middle and upper classes tbh. The approved uniform consists of a sweater covered in dog hair and a wax jacket. It’s just as contrived, and as an outsider looking in, I don’t see the inherent superiority of it.

anyway, in the states it’s income based for the most part, although it’s more complex in New England. It also varies, the upper classes in Massachusetts don’t present the same as the upper classes in California, or Colorado.

Seems a little insecurity has (predicatably and very amusingly) crept into this thread.

I agree that the studiedly unkempt, feral look isn't a thing in the US. Wellies and tutus for kids, dresses and leggings and messy buns for mothers are not a thing.

I don't agree that the preppy look is universally favoured in MC and UMC circles in the US as the alternative. There's more to the US than the east coast. Midwesterners in big cities dress for the weather. Most of the year you wouldn't know what they were wearing because they're bundled up in big puffy coats, hats, scarves, and gloves. People on the west coast have a variety of styles too.

Lifestyle varies according to climate and what individual regions offer in terms of recreation. Kids in MC and UMC areas do tend to do a lot of sports and other activities - sports, music, and dance are huge where I live. All the sports teams in the local high school do tryouts and cuts, apart from cross country.

What a pp calls “outward wealth” is merely ostentatiousness. Think Gatsby.

Not by British standards, no, but they’re not trying to meet British standards 🤷🏻‍♀️

Aw....

Somebody once read a novel.

“The approved uniform consists of a sweater covered in dog hair and a wax jacket.”

That’s a cliché! You can do better than that, I trust?

Anyway, the aristos in Norwich made the local news recently for fighting over a kebab.

Class indeed.

Why do Americans take everything so literally? They should practise irony.

An ellipsis is 3 dots.

Am I required to? Given that the peddling of cliches seems to be par for the course on this thread.

I’m neither American nor British, and I have no vested interest in arguing the superiority of one over the other. I don’t consider the British way to be better or worse, merely the British way.

Jesus, @Cam22 what American pissed onto your Weetabix this morning? 😂

How vulgar.

Par for the course. Another one. Le sigh.

Actually I wasn’t the person who mentioned flash cars etc. BUT if the cap fits…

I know you weren't. You were the one trying to get everyone's attention by saying insulting things about america. if you had even tried to be amusing ...

My US friends (and boyfriend) all say that class isn't a thing in the US like it is here in the UK. US society and one's place within is based on money.

Also, doesn't race come into it? Celebrity too? The latter superseding everything.

It's a totally different landscape in the US. It can't be compared to the UK.

I think everyone should ignore Cam22. You find people like this all the time on threads potentially derailing a good discussion by posting troll nonsense every other post.

As my late mum said ignore and it will go away.

Tell me you're ignorant, racist and xenophobic without telling me you're ignorant, racist or xenophobic.

Isn't it threads like this that also seem to make out that all England is 1980s films with hugh grant basically displaying "the English"? England isn't "classy" compared to America.

According to SIL - British but has lived in the states for years, their class system is a very different animal.

The same can be said about the British middle and upper classes tbh. The approved uniform consists of a sweater covered in dog hair and a wax jacket. It’s just as contrived, and as an outsider looking in, I don’t see the inherent superiority of it

Does it? Now l have an MA in Fashion and Anthropolgy and l used to lecture the stuff.

I’m not sure they all wear that. The country ones might. But MC urbanites would wear natural fibres with no obvious labels ( Pure collection etc)

UC urbanites would wear anything that took their fancy.

It's so true, money & class go hand & hand in the USA.