My payslip as a doctor in Feb 2021 during COVID

[Juniordoc]

See attached image. Yes this is for full-time work with weekends and nights in the currently stretched working conditions that the NHS provides.

This does not include the expenses and sacrifices of a six year medical degree. On top of that, we have to pay out of pocket for our own GMC membership, medical defence union, postgrad exams and revision courses, conferences and courses.

Please get behind us and support the strikes. We are burnout, exhausted and struggling to live

Better pay means better retention and less doctors having to pick up locum shifts on their rest days to bring their wage up. It is a terrible take home wage for a qualified doctor (the pay slip shows that this includes enhancements as well such as on call and weekend pay). I suspect it makes moving abroad where pay is substantially higher a big less appealing.

You are joking?

My cleaner charges £18 an hour!

@Fedupofdiets my point is what does the employer contribute to the pension. That js taxpayers money going towards a pension. AFAIK it's pretty generous and should be part of looking at the overall package.

Trouble is, if all public services are given pay rises then Joe Bloggs is then having to pay huge amounts of tax to pay for this - and regular people are struggling already... many haven't received a raise for years and not everyone can be in high paying professions.
It's not sustainable for anyone.

That's quite frankly an insulting wage.

I stand by you all

I agree with this post.

Have always and will always support medics. You’re so important and it is so wrong that you’re treated this way.

You're qualified at a basic level but lack experience. Experience in medicine is everything.

Once you have that experience, your earning potential is huge.

You also have amazing pension contributions, sick pay and holiday. (We never hear about this....)

Yes your working conditions are terrible, but how about low-paid care workers - the arse wipers of this world? Or social workers on the front line?

The 35% pay demand increase is totally impractical and arrogant.

That is atrocious, same as above my cleaner charges £18 per hour. I am behind you 100%

Sorry but so many trainees across various sectors live off peanuts. We’ve all been there, pounding pavement, grafting for nothing, living off lentils and rice and not much else. Builds character. Until it becomes the rest of your life. Then it’s just a slog. You won’t ever be in that position.
I was married to a GP for years. You’ll be loaded soon and live a lifestyle so many, who’ve trained as hard and as long in other areas, will never know.
You knew what you were getting into in Med School. I don’t support the strikes. Work hard. You’re learning. You’ll enjoy the fruits of your labour when you are a fully trained professional.

You’re comparing a medical school graduate with a police school graduate? Academically? In terms of the effort required to do all the exams during six years of medical school?

It is so sad, trying to get a place at a med school is extremely tough-then they treat you like this.
Yes if you manage to get a private practice going you can earn good money, but that will be in your 40/50’s and you have to survive that long.
I’m an accountant, I do work long hours and did my qualifications whilst working but I’ve always earned good money-I’ve also never had to make a life or death decision.
We are going to lose doctors who decide to go abroad and get paid more with less stress. I think you’ll find the majority are with you in these strikes.

We're on your side.

Please see the pay progression posted earlier. Doctors don't really earn that much, I'm telling you that as fact . I pretty much live in hospital as I always finish so late. I struggle to see my family and friends, struggle to go on holiday. I have to use my savings to pay for more exams, pay for courses and conferences. I don't have a flashy lifestyle at all. I buy own brand foods, have regular clothes from Matalan. I am living in a flat share.

I feel like the government doesn't value us at all. I do value my patients. It's why I always stay late every day. But we are breaking.

The government lies about the money. They say it's not affordable. The government wasted £35 billion on track and trace. The government wasted £5billion on PPE that we never saw as it wasn't for for use. For full pay restoration, it is only £1billion. The government can choose what they want to spend the money on but analysis has been done and they do have the money!

https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/healthcare/2023/03/time-bomb-health-system-three-quarters-nhs-staff-considered-quitting

Op I haven’t met a person yet that doesn’t support the strikes. That wage slip is a disgrace

Yes I'm pastoral support too.

I work 32 hours a week for 44.5 weeks and take home just £300 a month less than that as it's salaried over 12 months.

It's slightly higher pay an hour though.

Yeah I think people can't comprehend how life consuming it is to be a Med Student. Cant compare it to Police at all.

There are plenty of people who don't support the strikes,

Solidarity! ✊🏻

That is a paltry payslip. I support you 100%.

Patients are at risk everyday from the lack of qualified medical and healthcare staff, dwindling facilities and cuts to pretty much all parts of the NHS. Patients are probably less at risk during strikes as consultants are acting down and there are minimum service levels, it's not sustainable though and probably costs more than FPR would be for a year at least.

The wages at all pay points as a doctor here are low compared to comparable countries such as the US and Oz, perhaps the only way for wages that attract and retain enough doctors is to privatise and open up to market forces? After all for in demand professionals of which there is a shortage the solution in industry is to increase wages. Or we could support them in receiving one from the gov and keep free at point of use healthcare.

We are fully trained doctors on GMC register when we come out of medical school. It is the F1 doing CPR on nights, it is the F1 holding a patients hand at 3am when they are dying, it is the F1 who is running around taking bloods and running physically to the path lab to do their best for the patients. A junior doctor is not an apprenticeship. It is a full time job, you are working independently a lot of the time.

i used to work in the west end doing costume. I quit because the pay was shit and wasn’t enough for the insane hours I worked. I got paid more than that payslip.

I saw first hand the insane hours my brother worked as a junior doctor, including over covid. No wonder he left to work in media if this is how undervalued junior doctors are.

You have my support

I am a nurse and don't really know any dr's that earn "mega bucks". Also junior dr's aren't trainees. They are the people in charge of the hospital when the consultants clock off at 5pm. Pay them whatever the hell they ask for before they all disappear to other countries that treat them properly.