My payslip as a doctor in Feb 2021 during COVID

[Juniordoc]

See attached image. Yes this is for full-time work with weekends and nights in the currently stretched working conditions that the NHS provides.

This does not include the expenses and sacrifices of a six year medical degree. On top of that, we have to pay out of pocket for our own GMC membership, medical defence union, postgrad exams and revision courses, conferences and courses.

Please get behind us and support the strikes. We are burnout, exhausted and struggling to live

Junior doctors are not trainees.

100% behind you and thank you for all that you do ❤️

I agree that wages haven't necessarily kept pace with inflation and so on but 35% is never going to happen

your pension contribution is 9.3% and the NHS as an employer pays a whopping 20% which is far in excess of what private employers pay

I wonder if NHS staff would be happy to drop to the 5% a lot of people get in return for higher wages??

We stop when we pay enough to end the recruitment and retention crisis.

I totally support you.

It’s a disgrace. And charging for car parking is immoral. You’ll not get 35% but I hope you get something meaningful.

Absolutely shocking. I have to say that I had no idea.

I support you.

Thats shocking. I 100% support the strikes

With you 1000% Doctor.

That's actually shocking. I hope you have shared on every social media you are on. Fully support junior Dr's strike action.

Juniordoc is not a trainee they are a fully qualified doctor. 🙄

We pay , so you have to vote for a government that will substantially increase your national insurance and secondly be willing ( I believe ) to overhaul the NHS a trust system and waste .

Are Labour definitely saying they will do that ?

Yeah. That's an absolute joke.

In solidarity

Can someone please write what that wage slip says as I can't enlarge the image enough to actually read it 🙂

It's criminal really, no wonder so many brilliant doctors leave the NHS. If people want a functioning health service we have to pay the staff, the most important asset, fair and reasonable wages. Behind you all the way.

Yes I support you and we couldn't do without you, BUT ... "expenses and sacrifices of a six year medical degree"? You do realise, don't you, that most professional qualifications require similar sacrifices - you aren't unique. E.g. a teacher in Scotland requires a 4-yr hons degree + 1 yr PG diploma + 1 yr probationary training year = 6 years total. Don't get me wrong, not equating teachers with doctors, but after 10 years or so, what is your salary? and after 20????

That's a chunk less than I earn part time in a desk job that is most definitely not crucial to society. Wow.

Most professional jobs don't require such a lengthy degree though, it's disingenuous to suggest that they do.

I work in MH and have to pay £180 a year to join a professional body, and have to do hours of CPD at my expense. I get £16:50 an hour. It's disgusting.

@Juniordoc what is the sticking point for you? Is it the wage or the working conditions? If the working conditions were better (e.g. better staffing levels, could start and leave on time etc, registrations/ exams paid for) would you be happy with your wage?

I say this because it's not that bad a wage! A post doc researcher who has done a 3 year degree, 1 year masters and a 4 year PhD starts on about the same take home pay a month. But the conditions truly are appauling and unless they're sorted I can't see the NHS retaining doctors. Even if you did get the 35% rise, how many can cope working in the current conditions?

It is not wonderful pay. But for openness of discussion we need to see the pay progression.
https://www.nhsemployers.org/system/files/2022-03/Pay%20and%20Conditions%20Circular%20%28MD%29%201-2022.pdf

So the OP is now on take home 2,700 as junior doctor with 3 years experience.
sounds fair enough considering that is more than me as a teacher with nearly 20 years experience working similar (though obviously more sociable hours). Also I presume the OPs pay will continue to rise whereas mine will not.

Some of the comments on here are ridiculous.

The stress ( and before anyone jumps on me, I don’t doubt there is some element of stress and accountability) of practicing as a newly qualified solicitor is not comparable with the responsibilities placed on a junior doctor. Everyone I speak to is behind the strikes - it’s about time you were paid your worth for your skills and expertise . Sending best wishes and keeping everything crossed that there is a good outcome for you all.

Meh, £28k newly out of Uni, already in a decent pension scheme (does the employer match your 9.3%) Potential to earn lots more in the coming years. More than police earn as graduates and most other graduate placements outside London.

meanwhile your strikes are really hurting patients, the people you’re supposed to care about. Where do you think the money is coming from. I’m mean 35% it just shows total lack of grip on reality

Those salaries are a complete joke. I'm genuinely shocked, I had no idea.