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To be sick hearing about Biden's Visit to Ireland

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Viviennemary · 11/04/2023 18:12

What business is it of his even if he does have Irish ancestors. He should keep his nose out. it's really beginning to annoy me now. And he's not even there yet.

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Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:22

DarkDarkNight · 11/04/2023 20:21

I think it’s very important for the GFA especially given the unrest in Derry at the moment and the disaster that was Brexit. Bill Clinton played an important part in bringing peace to a Northern Ireland, I think this is a continuation of that.

Agree with this.

EarringsandLipstick · 11/04/2023 20:23

TheYearOfSmallThings · 11/04/2023 20:18

I wish him well but I'm hoping his visit doesn't glue up the airport tomorrow because I have a flight out.

The traffic is nuts already around Dublin - as Phoenix Park (near where I live) is closed for 2 days, the knock-on to everything, including the M50, will be nuts.

Allow masses & masses of time.

(Speaking of masses, interested to see he is going to Knock as well!)

Fuerza · 11/04/2023 20:23

Why not, I hope he survives this trip. Apparently he doesn't have the energy for this trip and then another trip to the UK for coronation next month.
That really highlights that he is too old for the job.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 11/04/2023 20:24

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:27

Her dad was killed by the IRA (i think, will have to check). So i'd understand in a way if she was less than benevolent towards Republicans.

Biden's a Democrat.

thecatsthecats · 11/04/2023 20:29

Brahumbug · 11/04/2023 18:21

His connection to Ireland is thin to say the least, he has far more English ancestors than Irish, but that doesn't have the same cudos with the Irish American voters.

I know right? I actually know his English cousin (as in, actually invited to the Obama inauguration cousin), but all you hear him bang on about is his vague Irish connections.

CordyLines · 11/04/2023 20:29

I think that he is meeting - or has already met Sunak in Belfast. That's good for both the Peace Process and the protocol. I also think Sunak went ahead with the protocol business due to US pressure and their reluctance to do a post Brexit trade deal without it being resolved.

It's all soft diplomacy and what the heck if it works.

And to a pp, Ireland (Republic of) is doing very well financially now. Has its problems with housing and COL etc. just like everywhere else it seems before that one gets trotted out. Ireland also has a huge number of US tech and pharma companies due to its low corporation tax and very well educated work force. UK could lower its CT if it wanted to and I often wonder why it doesn't in order to attract inward investment post Brexit.

ThomasinaLivesHere · 11/04/2023 20:31

Surely the main reason it’s mention in the UK is because of the Good Friday anniversary, which surely counts as news?

It’s interesting how heritage works for Americans because they have lots they can be fluid with them or choose one over the other. Obviously for US presidents it makes sense to choose ones that help your votes.

As a side note, as Scot I get the confusion for Americans between Scotland and Ireland, especially as they have a whole category of “Scots-Irish” but it does annoy me slightly when they use obvious Scottish things for celebrating their Irishness on St Patrick’s day.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:34

Radiatorvalves · 11/04/2023 20:21

Delighted he’s going and delighted the GFA is holding despite the inept idiocy of recent British politicians. I remember the bombs… it’s faded from memory. But I remember being scared when my dad went to London. Blair and Clinton have their faults, but this is something to celebrate.

My FIL was in Dublin Monaghan bomb, had aunts in bombs in Belfast and Manchester. I'm shocked at how blase some people are on here (i'm assuming English but could be wrong) about the threat of a return to violence. There was so much murder in NI that escaped so many mainlanders attention it's frightening. Really truly frightening. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. (And as for those who disn't notice in the first place....)

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:36

TooBigForMyBoots · 11/04/2023 20:24

Biden's a Democrat.

I was talking about the republicans as opposed to the loyalists 😒

Hobnobswantshernameback · 11/04/2023 20:38

The ignorance of history demonstrated on this thread is depressing

Iwasafool · 11/04/2023 20:41

Brahumbug · 11/04/2023 18:21

His connection to Ireland is thin to say the least, he has far more English ancestors than Irish, but that doesn't have the same cudos with the Irish American voters.

I read that 10 of his 16 g.g.grandparents were Irish, no idea if it is true. That doesn't seem all that thin, one of his grandparents was French.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:42

Hobnobswantshernameback · 11/04/2023 20:38

The ignorance of history demonstrated on this thread is depressing

Twas ever thus. But see the first post in the thread. Says it all.

Peachy2005 · 11/04/2023 20:46

Yes it’s as irritating as hearing about all the mega-fuss over the upcoming Coronation. News outlets just need stuff to make a big deal of.

Wexone · 11/04/2023 20:46

if it bothers you so much you can turn the telly off don't look at fb or read the papers etc you have choices you know. to me think it's brilliant. he is here for the god Friday agreement anniversary a momentous piece of history in Northern Ireland. its a bit light hearted news which helps considering a 13 year old and 13 year old was killed in a car crash yesterday morning along with two kids similar ages in critical condition plus the usual housing crisis etc we hear in the news evey single day

Iwasafool · 11/04/2023 20:48

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:15

And lest we forget, our actual food.

And Mayo suffered greatly. Like Biden I had ancestors in Ballina as well as other counties.

Happyretirement · 11/04/2023 20:55

I grew up in Ballina , the ignorance on display tonight is quite something.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:56

Iwasafool · 11/04/2023 20:48

And Mayo suffered greatly. Like Biden I had ancestors in Ballina as well as other counties.

No more than yourself, i had people from Connemara. They were scraping rocks.

borntobequiet · 11/04/2023 20:59

Fuerza · 11/04/2023 20:23

Why not, I hope he survives this trip. Apparently he doesn't have the energy for this trip and then another trip to the UK for coronation next month.
That really highlights that he is too old for the job.

He seems to be doing a pretty good job, including far better mid term results than predicted.
The Coronation is largely a bash for European royalty, politicians and deserving U.K. citizens. I believe Jill Biden will represent her husband.

Crispynoodle · 11/04/2023 21:04

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 18:19

For shame! It's gas, we're complete lick arses but at least it's a bit of good news like.

GrinGrinGrin

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 21:08

CordyLines · 11/04/2023 20:29

I think that he is meeting - or has already met Sunak in Belfast. That's good for both the Peace Process and the protocol. I also think Sunak went ahead with the protocol business due to US pressure and their reluctance to do a post Brexit trade deal without it being resolved.

It's all soft diplomacy and what the heck if it works.

And to a pp, Ireland (Republic of) is doing very well financially now. Has its problems with housing and COL etc. just like everywhere else it seems before that one gets trotted out. Ireland also has a huge number of US tech and pharma companies due to its low corporation tax and very well educated work force. UK could lower its CT if it wanted to and I often wonder why it doesn't in order to attract inward investment post Brexit.

We're not doing so well. COL crisis (applies to UK too albeit). Huge homelessness crisis. There will be an awful lot of problems down the line.

tourdefrance · 11/04/2023 21:11

Viviennemary · 11/04/2023 19:14

It's a wonder he doesnt visit Scotland to sort out the SNP probems. He could buy the campervan and use it to tour round.

😂 😂

HistoryFanatic · 11/04/2023 21:16

Quveas · 11/04/2023 19:52

Speaking for me and my Irish family, maybe the English should have kept their noses out? I am not against the English. Ireland was a result of burgeoning class power. But you don't get to tell those whose ancestors were driven out of their homelands by cruel power that they aren't allowed an opinion. He has as much right as you have.

British. ;) Half the bloody problems in Ireland wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the Scots.

Or is just convenient to blame the English only?

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 21:20

HistoryFanatic · 11/04/2023 21:16

British. ;) Half the bloody problems in Ireland wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the Scots.

Or is just convenient to blame the English only?

Cromwell wasn't Scottish. And the plantations in Ulster were engineered by the British monarch afaik, not by a Scots one.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 21:22

The Sack of Drogheda. To Hell or to Connaught. Etc.

FinallyHere · 11/04/2023 21:22

As president of the USA, he represents one of the sponsors of the Good Friday Agreement and acts as a reminder of how seriously it is taken by some parties.

This is in marked contrast to some of the antics of representatives of the government of the UK and their allies, the DUP, who give every appearance of being happy to undermine that agreement.

The GFA was predicated on the UK and Ireland both being members of the EU and signatories of the (separate) European Convention on Human Rights.

Goodness, now, who would complain about Biden getting coverage in the media for his show of support.

No, don't tell me, let me think for a moment.