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To be sick hearing about Biden's Visit to Ireland

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Viviennemary · 11/04/2023 18:12

What business is it of his even if he does have Irish ancestors. He should keep his nose out. it's really beginning to annoy me now. And he's not even there yet.

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Quveas · 11/04/2023 19:52

Viviennemary · 11/04/2023 18:12

What business is it of his even if he does have Irish ancestors. He should keep his nose out. it's really beginning to annoy me now. And he's not even there yet.

Speaking for me and my Irish family, maybe the English should have kept their noses out? I am not against the English. Ireland was a result of burgeoning class power. But you don't get to tell those whose ancestors were driven out of their homelands by cruel power that they aren't allowed an opinion. He has as much right as you have.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:52

MargaretBall · 11/04/2023 19:50

No, even Bush has an irish connection somewhere along the line

Didn't know that! What was his one? Fool shoulda capitalised innit!

romdowa · 11/04/2023 19:52

I didn't know he was coming here until I read this thread 🤣 his visit will keep the dollars rolling in for another few years

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Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:53

Quveas · 11/04/2023 19:52

Speaking for me and my Irish family, maybe the English should have kept their noses out? I am not against the English. Ireland was a result of burgeoning class power. But you don't get to tell those whose ancestors were driven out of their homelands by cruel power that they aren't allowed an opinion. He has as much right as you have.

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Very diplomatic ;)

Tarantullah · 11/04/2023 19:53

Lots of Americans like to proclaim they're 2% or whatever Irish, his ancestory and support of Ireland will be appealing for a lot of voters. Its also of course for 25 years of the GFA but I suspect his willing to go is more linked to his continual mention of his allegiance to Ireland.

hellesbells · 11/04/2023 19:54

Hobnobswantshernameback · 11/04/2023 19:50

its always embarrassing to see posters show their ignorance up quite so publicly
But in some cases it's utterlY unsurprising.

Agreed, but she has form

Hobnobswantshernameback · 11/04/2023 19:55

Oh yes
a lot of form

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:55

Tarantullah · 11/04/2023 19:53

Lots of Americans like to proclaim they're 2% or whatever Irish, his ancestory and support of Ireland will be appealing for a lot of voters. Its also of course for 25 years of the GFA but I suspect his willing to go is more linked to his continual mention of his allegiance to Ireland.

He does actually have proper Irish links though i think, on both sides of the country. It's not made up.

Tarantullah · 11/04/2023 19:55

Quveas · 11/04/2023 19:52

Speaking for me and my Irish family, maybe the English should have kept their noses out? I am not against the English. Ireland was a result of burgeoning class power. But you don't get to tell those whose ancestors were driven out of their homelands by cruel power that they aren't allowed an opinion. He has as much right as you have.

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I agree, but he often mixed his opinion as an individual with his thoughts as leader of the free world- both different things really.

Tarantullah · 11/04/2023 19:56

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:55

He does actually have proper Irish links though i think, on both sides of the country. It's not made up.

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I didn't say he didn't, hence mentioning his ancestory.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:57

Tarantullah · 11/04/2023 19:56

I didn't say he didn't, hence mentioning his ancestory.

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You said like 2%. He's a fair bit closer afaik

Quveas · 11/04/2023 19:57

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:53

Very diplomatic ;)

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Damn. I wasn't aiming for diplomatic...

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 19:58

Quveas · 11/04/2023 19:57

Damn. I wasn't aiming for diplomatic...

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🤣🤣🤣

GoodChat · 11/04/2023 19:59

Did you start a thread when Boris went to Ukraine? I don't understand the issue.

Happyretirement · 11/04/2023 20:06

mathanxiety · 11/04/2023 19:37

@Viviennemary

Is the green eyed monster whispering naughty thoughts into your ear? Are you one of those Britons who still believes in the 'special relationship'?

He's there to celebrate the signing of the Good Friday Agreement, which he counts as one of his own major political achievements.

The GFA ended 30 years of bloody strife in Northern Ireland and ushered in an era of relative peace and prosperity in the province. It came about thanks to the determination of Bill Clinton, Senator George Mitchell, and a good few other American politicians to put their weight behind negotiations to end the conflict and build a framework on which political and civic cooperation could develop.

Because of years of close involvement in the negotiations leading to the GFA, the US government is heavily invested in its success, to the chagrin of Boris Johnson and other British political charlatans. And also some dog in the manger posters here.

Biden also has some Irish ancestors - they left Ireland during or around the time of the famine - but he's here to remind Westminster that the GFA is America's sacred cow and nobody had better get any ideas about damaging it.

👋👋👋

Happyretirement · 11/04/2023 20:09

I am loving the coverage, looking forward to Joe Biden visiting the town I grew up in. This thread seems very anti Irish to me.

Pashy · 11/04/2023 20:12

I was fairly nonchalant about Biden’s visit, but now that I came come to know that it has pissed off even just one Brit, I’m here for it.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:13

And for anyone ignorant of Irish history, we have overcome huge obstacles to become what we are. Not least the treatment of British regimes that endeavoured to deprive us of our property, our language and our lives. The flock to America because of this treatment resulted in the likes of Biden et al having pride (and political pull because of) irishness.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:15

And lest we forget, our actual food.

Happyretirement · 11/04/2023 20:17

Well said @Chickenkeev .

TheYearOfSmallThings · 11/04/2023 20:18

I wish him well but I'm hoping his visit doesn't glue up the airport tomorrow because I have a flight out.

Chickenkeev · 11/04/2023 20:21

TheYearOfSmallThings · 11/04/2023 20:18

I wish him well but I'm hoping his visit doesn't glue up the airport tomorrow because I have a flight out.

Get there well in advance, i can't imagine it not having an affect.

Radiatorvalves · 11/04/2023 20:21

Delighted he’s going and delighted the GFA is holding despite the inept idiocy of recent British politicians. I remember the bombs… it’s faded from memory. But I remember being scared when my dad went to London. Blair and Clinton have their faults, but this is something to celebrate.

MeinKraft · 11/04/2023 20:21

motherofkevinnotperry · 11/04/2023 18:37

I'm not sure he'll make it to the end. He's looking more unwell and frail the more I see him.

Not if he comes down unwell in Belfast and has to wait for a bed in an NHS hospital he won't!

DarkDarkNight · 11/04/2023 20:21

I think it’s very important for the GFA especially given the unrest in Derry at the moment and the disaster that was Brexit. Bill Clinton played an important part in bringing peace to a Northern Ireland, I think this is a continuation of that.

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