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This is what people should really be worrying about ...

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shedview · 30/03/2023 08:32

Even if you haven't been worried (yet) by current increases in extreme weather events, this should ring alarm bells. These currents are what keep the UK and other northern European countries relatively warm compared to Greenland. : BBC News - Antarctic ocean currents heading for collapse- report
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65120327

Aerial view of Getz Ice Shelf, Antarctica.

Antarctic ocean currents heading for collapse- report

Melting ice could trigger a disastrous chain reaction, a new Australian study warns

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65120327

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Workinghardeveryday · 30/03/2023 08:57

So are you saying the U.K. will get colder?

I thought they worry is it will get warmer?

Nimbostratus100 · 30/03/2023 09:00

Workinghardeveryday · 30/03/2023 08:57

So are you saying the U.K. will get colder?

I thought they worry is it will get warmer?

you have misunderstood

An overall increase in the global temperature does not mean everywhere gets warmer

it means that the climate becomes extreme and unpredictable.

The UK has always benefited from a very stable climate compared to other areas at the same latitude - that is going to change, likely change hugely, and likely change very fast

queenofthebongo · 30/03/2023 09:01

I thought it was widely known that if we experience global warming that the Gulf Stream will change direction/move away from us and we will become much colder. Scotland would be a year round ski resort potentially. Crazy but true.....

queenofthebongo · 30/03/2023 09:02

Ie it's the Gulf Stream that keeps our temps stable. It passes really close to the outer Hebrides.

RudsyFarmer · 30/03/2023 09:08

I honestly can’t worry about anything else. I’m already breaking my teeth each night by gnashing my jaw wildly. I’m going to have to take my chances and accept my fate along with most other plebs alive today.

CalistoNoSolo · 30/03/2023 09:12

Who knew The Day After Tomorrow was in fact a documentary...

MermaidEyes · 30/03/2023 09:23

We have the same latitude as Canada, meaning one day possibly in the nearer future than we think we could have the long cold snowy winters they experience there.

shedview · 30/03/2023 09:25

CalistoNoSolo · 30/03/2023 09:12

Who knew The Day After Tomorrow was in fact a documentary...

The film was based on the predictions of climate theory. Now there is evidence that it is definitely happening.

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happysingleversary · 30/03/2023 09:39

Why should I be worrying? What would that do?

CalistoNoSolo · 30/03/2023 09:40

shedview · 30/03/2023 09:25

The film was based on the predictions of climate theory. Now there is evidence that it is definitely happening.

I'm well aware, and was aware of the theories behind the film before the film was released. However, as there is exactly zero I or anyone else can do on a personal level to to make the massive and fundamental changes needed, and as the climate is already in a positive feedback loop, I would rather make crap jokes and be as happy as possible until the inevitable doom catches up with us all. :)

shedview · 30/03/2023 09:55

CalistoNoSolo · 30/03/2023 09:40

I'm well aware, and was aware of the theories behind the film before the film was released. However, as there is exactly zero I or anyone else can do on a personal level to to make the massive and fundamental changes needed, and as the climate is already in a positive feedback loop, I would rather make crap jokes and be as happy as possible until the inevitable doom catches up with us all. :)

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm not actively worrying about it myself for the same reasons, but when I see other threads hand-wringing about much lesser concerns like potential asteroid strikes I do feel some people need to get a sense of perspective.

Anyway, we may well be obliterated by Putin's nuke before it gets too icy.

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Locsup183 · 30/03/2023 09:55

I disagree we should be worried. Nowt we can do about it! Enough worries in life (eg have I ordered enough Easter eggs in my Tesco shop…) without getting worked up over something we can’t control.

Nimbostratus100 · 30/03/2023 09:57

CalistoNoSolo · 30/03/2023 09:40

I'm well aware, and was aware of the theories behind the film before the film was released. However, as there is exactly zero I or anyone else can do on a personal level to to make the massive and fundamental changes needed, and as the climate is already in a positive feedback loop, I would rather make crap jokes and be as happy as possible until the inevitable doom catches up with us all. :)

there is plenty individuals can do, particularly apply political pressure, live life sustainably and aim for only two children

LolaGarden · 30/03/2023 10:00

Thanks for that 😣

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/03/2023 10:02

I thought you were going to say AI.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 30/03/2023 10:02

Locsup183 · 30/03/2023 09:55

I disagree we should be worried. Nowt we can do about it! Enough worries in life (eg have I ordered enough Easter eggs in my Tesco shop…) without getting worked up over something we can’t control.

With climate unpredictability and extreme evens, drought and flooding including, Easter eggs might be a luxury of the past.

Daftasabroom · 30/03/2023 10:12

shedview · 30/03/2023 08:32

Even if you haven't been worried (yet) by current increases in extreme weather events, this should ring alarm bells. These currents are what keep the UK and other northern European countries relatively warm compared to Greenland. : BBC News - Antarctic ocean currents heading for collapse- report
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65120327

You realize the Antarctic is south not north? The north Atlantic drift is dominated by Artic sea ice not Antarctic.

The article mixes north Atlantic currents and south Atlantic currents, they are related of course but this is a really badly written article.

frozendaisy · 30/03/2023 10:15

Many people have been concerned for years OP.

LaurieFairyCake · 30/03/2023 10:30

Actually we should be aiming for NO children and just using immigration from other parts of the world to do the work

It is not desirable for climate change for this country to be producing more children

That is unpalatable to hear but it's the truth 🤷‍♀️

Mutabiliss · 30/03/2023 10:37

I am worried, but there is very little I can do beyond reduce my own consumption and vote for people who actually give a shit (i.e. not the Tories).

It feels completely hopeless tbh.

Kazzyhoward · 30/03/2023 10:38

Nah, I only worry about things that are within my power to change.

JamSandle · 30/03/2023 10:39

I worry about this all the time. But still feel the news focuses on all this rather banal human stuff or on AI when actually THIS is the big threat to every single person on this planet.

highintheskypurple · 30/03/2023 10:40

There is loads we can do. Living sustainably and working on community gardens, orchards and working toward growing food and storing water for yourself is a great thing to do to become environmentally friendly and to prepare for possible food shortages.
I have a vegetable garden, allotment plot and engage in community gardens and orchards around my area, and last years 40°c weather scorched many plants and much of my crop was small or died as I couldn't keep the ground wet enough. It was worrying.

I am behind this year because its so wet and cold I haven't had a chance to go out and get things ready.

Things have been stable for many years but a couple of years ago we had a really wet may and many of my seedlings drowned when planted. It was way too saturated for them.

This kind of thing is happening really often. People who are usually friends or indifferent were fighting over water for their plants last year! I mean, we all wanted to water our plants more but water was running low and a couple of people were taking the milk.
It felt like a little taster of what would happen should resources that we usually take for granted become less available.

technically the UK is in drought mode, our reservoirs aren't filling back up after our hot summer, rainfall has dropped.

There are way too many things to worry about but my family are still eating apples and preserved/ frozen fruit and veg from last year.
Apples, carrots (in sand), pumpkins and squash store for months and months. I obviously enjoy gardening, but knowing what I can grow and eat and store all year really helps my anxiety around climate change. I know loads of people I can talk about this stuff with, some men have been gardening since before I was born and the general census is this - Things are changing and people are having to adapt or go without.

BramleyAppleHotCrossBun · 30/03/2023 10:40

I am worried/scared. But being worried/scared isn't freezing the ice back is it? what can we actually do? We recycle, try to be mindful about car use, live in a house that we don't overheat, have solar panels which generate 50% of the electricity we consume over the year...

We need governments to do something, not jet about once a year to discuss what to do 'in 5 years time' and never do it.😏

GlacindaTheTroll · 30/03/2023 10:42

happysingleversary · 30/03/2023 09:39

Why should I be worrying? What would that do?

If you mean fretting, not much.

If you mean caring enough to turn those concerns into action, a considerable amount.