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My child’s school have changed the name of Mother’s Day to special persons day, what do you think?

597 replies

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 11:50

Have we gone mad or is this appropriate?

OP posts:
ancientgran · 17/03/2023 12:09

oakleaffy · 17/03/2023 12:08

Kids deal with loss and grief all the time.
It’s part of life.

And some adults are capable of feeling empathy. Amazing isn't it.

GettingThereCharleyBear · 17/03/2023 12:10

@LittleFingerStrength you’re massively over reaching on that one 🙄. I started teaching 20 + years ago and we’ve long struggled with these days because of the complex families that children live in nowadays. It’s nothing to do with woke - it’s to do with sensitivity to kids.

FanFckingTastic · 17/03/2023 12:10

YetAnotherSpartacus · 17/03/2023 12:00

Why not 'Mothers and Others' - a day to honour your Mother or the very special person in your life who looks after you (or similar)?

Absolutely this. My kids school handled it in this way so that any child that didn't have a Mum would also be included.

I don't believe that we should 'cancel' Mother's day however, because a very small minority may not have a Mother. We need to be sensitive yes, but also realistic.

For what's it's worth, I was one of these kids, being raised by my Dad. My school always made Mother's day craft and encouraged me to participate and make something instead for my Auntie - I don't recall having any issues with this and certainly didn't feel that the day should not be noted because of my personal situation.

Miadi · 17/03/2023 12:10

Mothers and Others is a good idea. I always celebrated my grandma on Mother's Day and my grandad on Father's day. I had a friend who was being raised by their adult sibling because their only parent had died, so that could have worked well. Likewise people who are in foster care might appreciate it.

I remember getting very sad at school about 18ish years ago, about age 9, when we were told in assembly "We only want to see mummy and daddy's at the assembly, no grandparents or aunties and uncles etc." Basically they were trying to say they only had X number of seats... But I took it very literally and ended up in tears because I didn't have a mummy or daddy.

ThreeFeetTall · 17/03/2023 12:11

@LittleFingerStrength
Shhh, stop bringing facts into this Wink

bigbluebus · 17/03/2023 12:11

Bonkers to completely erase the word Mother. The majority of children have a Mother. Fine to add or 'Special Person'. The children without a Mother (for whatever reason) know that other children have one.

jellycakeandicecream · 17/03/2023 12:12

oakleaffy · 17/03/2023 12:06

Agreed- All about woke ideologies and 190 genders.

What, exactly, do you think woke means? Because it doesn’t mean what you think it does.

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 12:12

My partner thinks the world has gone mad. I’m the opposite I’m not offended at all, as long as I get breakfast in bed

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museumum · 17/03/2023 12:13

It’s good to be sensitive but I’d much prefer they just didn’t make a thing of the day at all - it falls on a Sunday anyway so is a home/family thing. No need to “do” it in school. Older kids will know full well what’s going on with the name change.

ancientgran · 17/03/2023 12:13

Timeforachangeisitnot · 17/03/2023 11:53

Mad. Mothers Day is a specific Sunday in Lent ( Mothering Sunday) . i am not at all religious, it I do know that it has its roots in Christian Faith and is not a made up import like, say, Fathers Day or Halloween.

That said, I am happy for anyone to celebrate anyone, who has been an influence on their lives regardless of their ‘title’ .

But the school is overstepping I think,

From a religious point of view Mothering Sunday wasn't about your mother, it was about visiting your mother church. Children who were in service would have the day off to return home so they could visit their mother church.

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 12:13

ThreeFeetTall · 17/03/2023 12:11

@LittleFingerStrength
Shhh, stop bringing facts into this Wink

Or stop bringing obsessive prejudice into it.

Skyeheather · 17/03/2023 12:13

Lycanthropology · 17/03/2023 11:56

I wonder what they'll call Father's Day when it comes... Special Person's Day #2?

They don't do anything for Father's Day at DC school. Last year every class came out with at least a home made card for Mother's Day so I didn't buy a Fathers Day card thinking DC would make one for him too and they didn't.

If they don't do anything this year I think I will question it at the next PTA meeting.

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 12:13

GettingThereCharleyBear · 17/03/2023 12:10

@LittleFingerStrength you’re massively over reaching on that one 🙄. I started teaching 20 + years ago and we’ve long struggled with these days because of the complex families that children live in nowadays. It’s nothing to do with woke - it’s to do with sensitivity to kids.

I found zero sympathy from the school when my children lost their Father, the opposite infact.

Life is unfair, children have to become robust, the family can deal with the grief at home together as people always have done in these situations.

There will be situations in life that others will feel sad and I taught my children to not be thieves of others joy let them enjoy Father's day as they once did, them losing out will not make you any happier.

Violaviolin · 17/03/2023 12:14

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 11:53

It indicates that they have poor safeguarding and will view female students as fourth class, first will be girl + students, then boys then boy+ then girls.

Don't be rediculous.

Twizbe · 17/03/2023 12:15

I'm guessing school know if there is a child/ are children in the school who have lost mothers / don't live with them.

In my experience school handles things like Mother's Day / Father's Day sensitively for those.

My kids' school is CoE so they do Mothering Sunday and it's links to Lent. They will talk about the mother figures as well as mothers.

For Father's Day they did the same. They talk about father figures and male role models. There was a clearly more talk about great uncles, brothers, grandads, godfathers etc than there had been on Mother's Day. My guess is more children in the school were impacted than on Mother's Day.

EmmatheStageRat · 17/03/2023 12:15

SpideysMummy · 17/03/2023 12:02

Agree with this.

As the single adoptive parent/mother of two non-sibling children, I couldn’t agree more. My teen DD is currently having to live away from our home for a myriad of complicated reasons, including trying to reconnect (too young) with her birth mother. My younger DD is desperate to see her birth mother who has gone AWOL. Mother’s Day is a massively triggering event in our household so I anticipate tears, high emotion, tantrums and possibly violence and aggression.

I’m surprised that those objecting don’t have the capacity to understand that not every child has a cookie cut-out, ‘perfect’ family make-up.

ancientgran · 17/03/2023 12:16

Miadi · 17/03/2023 12:10

Mothers and Others is a good idea. I always celebrated my grandma on Mother's Day and my grandad on Father's day. I had a friend who was being raised by their adult sibling because their only parent had died, so that could have worked well. Likewise people who are in foster care might appreciate it.

I remember getting very sad at school about 18ish years ago, about age 9, when we were told in assembly "We only want to see mummy and daddy's at the assembly, no grandparents or aunties and uncles etc." Basically they were trying to say they only had X number of seats... But I took it very literally and ended up in tears because I didn't have a mummy or daddy.

That's so sad particularly as the adults wouldn't have wanted to hurt you but so thoughtless. I hope your grandparents were able to attend.

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 12:16

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 12:13

I found zero sympathy from the school when my children lost their Father, the opposite infact.

Life is unfair, children have to become robust, the family can deal with the grief at home together as people always have done in these situations.

There will be situations in life that others will feel sad and I taught my children to not be thieves of others joy let them enjoy Father's day as they once did, them losing out will not make you any happier.

There is professional support for processing grief. Just because you don't think it's useful that doesn't negate its value to others.

GettingThereCharleyBear · 17/03/2023 12:16

@LittleFingerStrength well I’m sorry to hear that but that’s not been my experience and you are still conflating two issues.

SettlingForANewPassword · 17/03/2023 12:16

Zipps · 17/03/2023 11:55

I actually agree on this one. It stops kids living in foster families, in care, with grandparents or with two dads not feeling left out. Not everyone has a wonderful loving mother either.

Yes i wonder if it is because of this and not a gender neutral agenda.

I will never forget seeing a little boy in DS1s class along with every other classmate in the Mother's Day assembly and tea party just sit there sobbing sioently with shaking shoulders. His mum had died about 6 months previously. It was hideous, poor pet.

And there are sadly loads of kids who are in foster care or who are under special guardianship orders with family members.

Disneyforaweek · 17/03/2023 12:16

Zipps · 17/03/2023 11:55

I actually agree on this one. It stops kids living in foster families, in care, with grandparents or with two dads not feeling left out. Not everyone has a wonderful loving mother either.

My thoughts too. Same for Father's Day, not everyone has a dad in their lives.

ThreeFeetTall · 17/03/2023 12:17

@ilovesooty no I meant the comment about mother churches at the start of the thread

Travelationjubilation · 17/03/2023 12:18

Entirely appropriate and sensitive

nicetoseetgesunsout · 17/03/2023 12:18

I agree as my son went to school with a boy who sadly lost his mum suddenly when he was 6 (brain aneurism - I was in the library with her the day before with our toddlers) and my daughter went to school with a girl who tragically lost her dad when she was 9 (heart attack at 40).
I always felt dreadful for those kids when it was mothers/Father's Day and my children brought home cards that they had made at school.
School doesn't need to be involved in these 'days' - let families deal with those days in their own way.

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 12:18

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 12:16

There is professional support for processing grief. Just because you don't think it's useful that doesn't negate its value to others.

Strawman