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My child’s school have changed the name of Mother’s Day to special persons day, what do you think?

597 replies

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 11:50

Have we gone mad or is this appropriate?

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Comedycook · 17/03/2023 17:42

SwordToFlamethrower · 17/03/2023 17:34

Let's cancel Christmas while we are at it, because not everyone is Christian!
SHEESH

Bet you thinks its all woke and political correctness gone mad don't you?!

ForeverTheOptomist · 17/03/2023 17:50

Get rid of Mothers Day totally, and ditch Father Christmas whilst you're at it.

THEN there'll be tears.

(and don't even start me on Aunt Bessie's Yorkshire puds, Uncle Tom's cobblers and all)

SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 17:52

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 17:25

You have completely twisted my words, you aren't in good faith at all.

Some teachers are activist teachers, ttheywill include those who have an ideological belief that women are breeders.

I am surprised someone hasn't come for Geoffrey Chaucer and cancelled The Parson's tale, they don't seem to like being told envy is unhealthy and they want to make every one equal in misery.

You are so totally projecting your agenda into this.

Posters who actually have lived through this are saying, that was really hurtful and one simple swap, that no other care would care about, would have helped.

But no, you'd rather young kids who've already gone through more than many adults not be accommodated because you're taking it personally.

You seem less vocal over Father's Day being Special Persons Day, something that actually happened first.

luxuryisforme · 17/03/2023 17:53

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 17:27

Wow I really opened a can of worms with this thread. I would just like to say that after all this my dear daughter has decided that she now wants to spend Mother’s Day at her dads as I’m the worst mother in the world for asking her to tidy away her toys. She has a stinking cold so I’m tempted to let her go! 😂

I did ask her what she thought special person day meant and she just ran off and flooded the bathroom trying to water her plant beavers gave her to grow. Its got no chance of sprouting. So yeah she seems pretty traumatised to have had to cope with the ordeal of the mothers day to special persons day name change.

That's you told! 🤣

MushMonster · 17/03/2023 17:55

Likely is me and my personality, but if I were in the situation that something was changed for my peers just because of my particular circumstances, that would embarrass me no end. I would actually consider not coming back to the place, especially around my teen years. A previous poster has mentioned being happy for other's joy, not to take it away. And that is exactly how I would feel.
Mother and Other special ones is inclusive.
Erasing Mothers is offensive to me.
Also... so fathers get Father's Day, but mother's actually do not have a day in some people's view? It is Mothering Sunday, to go and visit your Mother Church... well, I do want to honour my mother and grandmother and aunties and all mother's I know, including all those who take the mother responsibility.
Happy Mother's Day to you all💐

Somebodiesmother · 17/03/2023 17:58

MushMonster · 17/03/2023 17:55

Likely is me and my personality, but if I were in the situation that something was changed for my peers just because of my particular circumstances, that would embarrass me no end. I would actually consider not coming back to the place, especially around my teen years. A previous poster has mentioned being happy for other's joy, not to take it away. And that is exactly how I would feel.
Mother and Other special ones is inclusive.
Erasing Mothers is offensive to me.
Also... so fathers get Father's Day, but mother's actually do not have a day in some people's view? It is Mothering Sunday, to go and visit your Mother Church... well, I do want to honour my mother and grandmother and aunties and all mother's I know, including all those who take the mother responsibility.
Happy Mother's Day to you all💐

The school did the same for father's day.

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 17:58

SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 17:52

You are so totally projecting your agenda into this.

Posters who actually have lived through this are saying, that was really hurtful and one simple swap, that no other care would care about, would have helped.

But no, you'd rather young kids who've already gone through more than many adults not be accommodated because you're taking it personally.

You seem less vocal over Father's Day being Special Persons Day, something that actually happened first.

The insincere nonsense projected onto me, I actually fund it quite amusing.

I have told people that I am sorry for their loss, I seem to be expected to prostate myself worshipping their grief forever more and have no life of my own, just here on earth to service randemom people.

I will sort my own family and those I know myself , when younger I gave way too much to others and I don't have to service the needs of any random demanding them of me. I offer someone who suffered a loss I know with condolences, if I like them I will maybe offer more. I don't care what anyone says about me. I am not going to run around after random narcs who think everyone is their unpaid career, everyone has traumatic things in their life, everyone can pick who they want to help with or not - unless employees.

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 17:59

@MushMonster but you are not 6 or 7 and just lost your parent so how would you know how you would have felt having gone through that. Perhaps they would have died from a long painful illness and that’s been your life for year. You are an adult with an adult brain now.

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slashlover · 17/03/2023 18:00

@MushMonster

Also... so fathers get Father's Day, but mother's actually do not have a day in some people's view?

The OP has already stated that they renamed Father's Day to Special Person's Day last year.

Somebodiesmother · 17/03/2023 18:00

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 17:58

The insincere nonsense projected onto me, I actually fund it quite amusing.

I have told people that I am sorry for their loss, I seem to be expected to prostate myself worshipping their grief forever more and have no life of my own, just here on earth to service randemom people.

I will sort my own family and those I know myself , when younger I gave way too much to others and I don't have to service the needs of any random demanding them of me. I offer someone who suffered a loss I know with condolences, if I like them I will maybe offer more. I don't care what anyone says about me. I am not going to run around after random narcs who think everyone is their unpaid career, everyone has traumatic things in their life, everyone can pick who they want to help with or not - unless employees.

Unless you are a teacher no one is actually suggesting you do anything. If you are a teacher you shouldn't be.

ToWhitToWhoo · 17/03/2023 18:00

daffodilandtulip · 17/03/2023 17:04

Bet they don't change Father's Day

They do. Much more often than they change Mother's Day. Presumably because more children are affected (fatherlessness is commoner than motherlessness - though that's no excuse for not being concerned about the latter).

Comedycook · 17/03/2023 18:03

when younger I gave way too much to others and I don't have to service the needs of any random demanding them of me. I offer someone who suffered a loss I know with condolences, if I like them I will maybe offer more. I don't care what anyone says about me. I am not going to run around after random narcs who think everyone is their unpaid career, everyone has traumatic things in their life, everyone can pick who they want to help with or not - unless employees

I'm saying this with kindness but have you had some help processing the trauma you have been through...if not, perhaps it's something you should look into.

MrsCarson · 17/03/2023 18:03

SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 16:54

But can you not understand they're still lsat there whilst Miss is saying "OK boys and girls, today were making mothers Day cards for your Mom's blah blah blah. Oh yes, Jessica... Do you want to make one for Granny. Is she still alive? No? How about an aunt? or perhaps the neighbour?"
. I mean mines alive and I can imagine how that might be shit

Do you really think teachers are that callous. There are ways around everything if thought is put into it.

slashlover · 17/03/2023 18:04

I have told people that I am sorry for their loss, I seem to be expected to prostate myself worshipping their grief forever more and have no life of my own, just here on earth to service randemom people.

Nobody has stated you have to do anything. You want to celebrate Mother's Day? Crack on? You want a big Mother's Day card? You can have one! You want a cake that says Mother's Day? Not on person is stopping you.

It's not about you.

SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 18:05

SwordToFlamethrower · 17/03/2023 17:30

Highly offensive

In what way?

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 18:08

That poster sounds more and more like my ex husband. We went to court, it took 3 years but he was convicted of emotional and mental abuse. He’s a narcissist.

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SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 18:08

MrsCarson · 17/03/2023 18:03

Do you really think teachers are that callous. There are ways around everything if thought is put into it.

Within the last few pages, the TA that came in and asked which is the kid with the dead Mom.

I don't think teachers intend to be cruel, altho I suspect if some posters were teachers they'd use people's deceased parents as a teaching lesson for 5 year olds. I think it's life, a busy classroom and it happens. But it wouldn't with some rewording that harms no one.

ancientgran · 17/03/2023 18:08

SwordToFlamethrower · 17/03/2023 17:34

Let's cancel Christmas while we are at it, because not everyone is Christian!
SHEESH

That isn't at all the same as upsetting a child who doesn't have a mother in their life.

You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Christmas, in fact an awful lot of people who aren't Christians do celebrate it just like I, as a Christian, am happy to join in Hanukkah with Jewish friends or Eid with Muslim friends.

MushMonster · 17/03/2023 18:11

I was 6 once.
I was in classrooms with other children.
With issues of all sorts!
And I did not mean your school has Father's Day and no Mother's Day.
Apparently, in general, it is Father's Day and Mothering Sunday. I know Mothering Sunday is the origin of today's celebration, but I would say we are much in Mother's Dat mode for most people this century? So it is about mothers, no about church

SleepingStandingUp · 17/03/2023 18:11

SE13Mummy · 17/03/2023 17:31

I generally avoid making cards with my class for things such as Mothering Sunday or Father's Day but this year one of the members of staff brought in daffodils for every child to take home for Sunday.

I spoke to the two children in my class who have no contact with their mums, explained about the tradition of Mothering Sunday and how working children would often be given the day off to visit their childhood church or 'Mother Church' (cathedral) with their family. I explained that picking flowers on the journey home was often part of that which was where the idea of giving flowers came from, hence today's flowers. The children were really interested in hearing about the traditions and the idea of 'Mothering' not being about mums per se. One of them chose to take the daffodils with the 'for Mother's Day' label to give to their carer, the other was keen to give the flowers to Dad (minus the tag) because Dad's the one who does the mothering in their family. They were both happy with their decisions and later in the day I heard the second of the two explaining to another adult about Mothering Sunday traditions and why Dad should be given daffodils.

❤️

ancientgran · 17/03/2023 18:14

MushMonster · 17/03/2023 17:55

Likely is me and my personality, but if I were in the situation that something was changed for my peers just because of my particular circumstances, that would embarrass me no end. I would actually consider not coming back to the place, especially around my teen years. A previous poster has mentioned being happy for other's joy, not to take it away. And that is exactly how I would feel.
Mother and Other special ones is inclusive.
Erasing Mothers is offensive to me.
Also... so fathers get Father's Day, but mother's actually do not have a day in some people's view? It is Mothering Sunday, to go and visit your Mother Church... well, I do want to honour my mother and grandmother and aunties and all mother's I know, including all those who take the mother responsibility.
Happy Mother's Day to you all💐

Well you were a very mature 5 year old, unfortunately if you read the thread you will see many people have been hurt by Mother's Day activities at school.

Mothering Sunday is on a Sunday so there is no issue about how people celebrate it, school won't be doing a swoop to make sure no one has mentioned mother.

Madamecastafiore · 17/03/2023 18:16

Jesus, these are little kids, I was one of them. Asking for understanding around losing a parent isn't asking someone else to take on your trauma it's just being sensitive that not everyone is in the same boat as you.

One of my friends parents is battling cancer and she mentioned that she is aware of my loss and it broke my heart that whilst she is going through such a traumatic time she had the forethought to even mention my loss.

I'm middle aged and yet it still hurts, I turn off adverts for Mother's Day as losing your mother at a young age isn't something you can work through and it's still hard to balance celebrating being a mother with my children with the loss of my mother. It leaves a massive hole in your life. You don't have that person that most others do to support you and be a role model, help you through life and you yearn for it.

i'm probably too close to this discussion to be wholly balanced about it but a little kindness to those children would go a long way to not compounding the difference between them and their peers.

ToWhitToWhoo · 17/03/2023 18:17

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 17:35

I have already said that I am sorry for you.

I like everyone else on this earth, we all have had terrible things happen to us. No sympathy is wrong as us over Indulgence.

I don't expect everyone to walk on egg shells because I was with my Mother when she had a fit, hemoraged and delivered later a seven month old dead baby when I was 8? I wouldn't dream of the entitled selfishness some think they are obliged by unpaid fellow humans, who don't famcy taking on you and your particular trauma. Many people do good works, they like to pick who they do them for themselves.

I am terribly sorry that you endured such a terrible tragedy.

But- since you are being similarly blunt with everyone else- I can't help saying that your own personal tragedies, and perhaps the lack of support that you had with them, do seem to have resulted in your expecting everyone to walk on eggshells: just in a slightly different way from that which you criticise others for. You seem to find it intolerably painful that bereaved children nowadays should receive special adaptations - perhaps because you and your contemporaries were not allowed any adaptations. Which was awful for you all.

some think they are obliged by unpaid fellow humans, who don't famcy taking on you and your particular trauma.

This is about schools. Teachers are paid (if usually not enough) for teaching and supporting children. No one is saying that random people in society should avoid celebrating Mother's Day, or are required to support bereaved strangers.

MushMonster · 17/03/2023 18:19

Not a mature 5 year old, but a person who likes to blend with the rest and never have any spot light on me, plus as a whole we were much raised on a "keep calm abd carry on", which I do not think is bad. You need to build up resilience.

Stickstickstickstickstick · 17/03/2023 18:22

MushMonster · 17/03/2023 18:19

Not a mature 5 year old, but a person who likes to blend with the rest and never have any spot light on me, plus as a whole we were much raised on a "keep calm abd carry on", which I do not think is bad. You need to build up resilience.

Do you think teachers will announce ‘well MushMonster’s mum kicked the bucket so we have to change the name of Mother’s Day, sorry kids’?

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