Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

My child’s school have changed the name of Mother’s Day to special persons day, what do you think?

597 replies

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 11:50

Have we gone mad or is this appropriate?

OP posts:
CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 14:49

I agree 'Mothers and Others' sounds better but 'Special Persons' is coming from the right place.

Comedycook · 17/03/2023 14:50

It sometimes seems the opposite of woke is 'cunt

Exactly

TeenLifeMum · 17/03/2023 14:52

Knowing how hard Mother’s Day is for some who have lost their mum I don’t hate it. What does sadden me as that that is unlikely the reason behind the change. I’d expect the same approach to Father’s Day.

TonTonMacoute · 17/03/2023 14:52

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 14:35

It. Happened. At. The. Last. Fathers '. Day.

There is no agenda here to erase women.

Fathers. Day. Does. Not. Replace. Mothers. Day!

It is as well as. In any case Mothers Day (or Mothering Sunday as it is correctly known) is a very old tradition, Fathers Day is a very recent addition brought about mainly by the greetings card industry.

Are there plans to rename Father's Day too? If not my comment about erasure stands.

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 14:52

carriedout · 17/03/2023 14:45

I guess that means I'm what you would call woke - I would happily have the name of Mother's Day changed to avoid upsetting a child whose mum was dead.

It sometimes seems the opposite of woke is 'cunt'.

I was going I to use the word “twat” but yours works just as well.

OP posts:
MyriadOfTravels · 17/03/2023 14:52

carriedout · 17/03/2023 14:45

I guess that means I'm what you would call woke - I would happily have the name of Mother's Day changed to avoid upsetting a child whose mum was dead.

It sometimes seems the opposite of woke is 'cunt'.

But changing it to ‘A special person’ is crap.
I mean there has been threads about it on here fir years. There is nothing new really. And it’s certainly not woke.

But what are they going to do for Father’s Day? Some children don’t have a father anymore. A lot don’t have a father that bothers with them and see them. What is Fathers day going to be? Another ‘Special person’ day?
It’s going to strip any meaning out if any of those celebration. So changing the name yes. But not to that. ‘Special Woman’ would be better for example. Or allowing children to chose who they make the card for.

Charlieiscool · 17/03/2023 14:52

It’s a good idea. Some children no longer have a mother or they are being brought up by someone else. I’ve always thought the card making for mothers was cruel for some children.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 17/03/2023 14:52

It's a horrendously twee name so I dislike it on that grounds. It's spring so something along the lines of "thank you for helping me grow" which would go with all the plants/seeds my children bring home every year for Mothers day would have sounded better.

Personally I don't think schools should be making cards for Mothers Day/Fathers Day. Although my daughter has just brought an angry leprechaun card home for Saint Patrick's day so I suppose it's any excuse for an art project.

HazyDragon · 17/03/2023 14:53

It's funny, I've been teaching for nearly 15 years and mother/father's day cards have always been to 'Someone Special' no drama.

But now it's all about 'erasing women' and something to froth about.

AcornGreen · 17/03/2023 14:53

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 14:35

It. Happened. At. The. Last. Fathers '. Day.

There is no agenda here to erase women.

I agree. But some people have been gaslight by a hysterical press to believe that everything is about erasing women, and this must be part of some male agenda. It’s a shame a nice thing a school has done to support potentially vulnerable children is being hijacked into this.

Butteryflakycrust83 · 17/03/2023 14:54

PLEASE READ THE EFFIN THREAD

THEY ALSO CHANGED FATHERS DAY LAST YEAR

this is not erasure of women! Go back to the Feminism Board!

AcornGreen · 17/03/2023 14:56

HazyDragon · 17/03/2023 14:53

It's funny, I've been teaching for nearly 15 years and mother/father's day cards have always been to 'Someone Special' no drama.

But now it's all about 'erasing women' and something to froth about.

It’s great to hear your perspective. This thread is what happens when people only want to hear half the story and try to scare women.

Mel146 · 17/03/2023 14:56

Whenwilliberich · 17/03/2023 14:42

one dad of two dads here. Adopted child. Mother’s Day brings up a lot for our kids. Lots of big feelings.

sons school did mothers or others day. Which I thought was sweet. However they asked me did I want him to make a Mother’s Day card. Of course I don’t - who’s he making it for? The school know the full background.

for those saying it’s a religious day Mothering Sunday blah blah. It’s not a religious school - why are they doing anything at all? He was crying last night because he has been told by another child that he can’t make the cakes because he doesn’t have a mother. Fine talk about Mother’s Day, and sweet of them to make it mothers or others day, but giving it a different name clearly hasn’t caused any inclusivity.

he couldn’t tell me which child has said he can’t do it, only the children that stood up for him, so it is quite possibly a made up story, but he’s still clearly thinking about his difference before he needs to (he’s in reception).

We can't protect our kids against everything and ofcourse children will question things that don't make sense to them. It is the same for kids of other races and religions. Boys with long braids being told they are a girl by kids, kids who wear a turban or headscarf being told they can't shower with "it" on. Many kids don't celebrate Christmas and when they talk about Santa Claus not existing it's a big backlash for them ect ect ... Kids will always ask about things that don't make sense to them in their bubble. We can't protect our kids against everything and they will build a lot of resilience if they are supported by their parents/carers at home. The best we can do is teach them and ourselves to respect differences.

ilovesooty · 17/03/2023 14:56

TonTonMacoute · 17/03/2023 14:52

Fathers. Day. Does. Not. Replace. Mothers. Day!

It is as well as. In any case Mothers Day (or Mothering Sunday as it is correctly known) is a very old tradition, Fathers Day is a very recent addition brought about mainly by the greetings card industry.

Are there plans to rename Father's Day too? If not my comment about erasure stands.

The last Fathers ' Day was renamed.

This does not evidence an agenda to erase women.

Rainbow03 · 17/03/2023 14:57

@AcornGreen I agree there is a huge amount of misogyny in the world but this time its not actually that. I said way up in the thread that Father’s Day was also changed to special person day. They have had a number of children loose parents, a few I know of. The head is female and I believe a really empathetic thing to has been done.

OP posts:
CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 14:57

TeenLifeMum · 17/03/2023 14:52

Knowing how hard Mother’s Day is for some who have lost their mum I don’t hate it. What does sadden me as that that is unlikely the reason behind the change. I’d expect the same approach to Father’s Day.

They did.

Nightmare2022 · 17/03/2023 14:57

This is misogynistic. I am so sick of this crap.

redskylight · 17/03/2023 14:57

TonTonMacoute · 17/03/2023 14:52

Fathers. Day. Does. Not. Replace. Mothers. Day!

It is as well as. In any case Mothers Day (or Mothering Sunday as it is correctly known) is a very old tradition, Fathers Day is a very recent addition brought about mainly by the greetings card industry.

Are there plans to rename Father's Day too? If not my comment about erasure stands.

OP has already said that the last Fathers' Day was also called "special person's day" at school.

Which is what the poster who you thought you'd have a pop at was trying to tell you.

dutysuite · 17/03/2023 14:58

I’d rather they just butt out, I don’t know why they get involved with it anyway? We used to have to pay the PTA if we wanted our children to make a Mother’s Day card…I didn’t bother.

Emotionalsupportviper · 17/03/2023 14:59

LittleFingerStrength · 17/03/2023 11:54

Servant class returned to Mother church and visited family.

I was just going to say this - The "Mother" was the Mother church in their home parish, but girls in service often took the opportunity to bake a cake as an appreciation for their mothers, too, as it gave them the chance to visit their family that they probably hadn't seen for a year.

WherezMyRulebook · 17/03/2023 14:59

ReadersD1gest · 17/03/2023 11:55

This, too.

What why?

I guess it's just to be inclusive to kids who don't live with their mums but are maybe in foster care. I don't think there's anything wrong that. As a mum I'm not so insecure that I can't share mother's day.

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 15:00

Perhaps schools should just stop celebrating it then. I don't think we did when I was at school. Then those that 'need' a special card can make their own arrangements.

ReadersD1gest · 17/03/2023 15:00

CaptainMyCaptain · 17/03/2023 15:00

Perhaps schools should just stop celebrating it then. I don't think we did when I was at school. Then those that 'need' a special card can make their own arrangements.

Agree.

slashlover · 17/03/2023 15:04

Nightmare2022 · 17/03/2023 14:57

This is misogynistic. I am so sick of this crap.

Please explain how when OP has said Yes the last Father’s Day was special person day also.

ThreeRingCircus · 17/03/2023 15:05

Our school does two "special people's days" a year instead of Mothers day/Father's day. I think it makes sense to be honest, just in DD's class there is a fostered child, one adopted boy with two dads, one being brought up by grandparents and I'm sure there'll be quite a few who don't see their one of their parents. Added up across the school that is likely quite a significant number of children. I could understand the upset if the school just replaced mother's day and not father's day but that's not what has happened here.

Swipe left for the next trending thread