Nurses - what do you think to the pay offer?

[BabbleBee]

Initially I thought 5%, hmmm ok. Then I looked at the breakdown and it’s around £1500 a year extra for your average B5. That’s not going to make much difference in the monthly pay is it….

That's dreadful.

All it will mean is more posts will be cut creating bigger waits and more pressure on staff, no money to improve infrastructure causing created inefficiencies etc.

It will all get worse and worse.

As people like Hunt and Sunak are not stupid, one has to assume this is the plan.

AHPs are embarrassing time and time again letting nurses do all the hard work for them striking while they sit in their warm offices.

It's easy to accept something you haven't fought for. Disgraceful offer, get a backbone

Who are you having a go at??
Since when did AHPs spend their day sitting "in nice warm offices"? Your post is offensive and goady.

Pat Cullen negotiated her way down from 19% to 10% to 7.5% without any formal negotiations. She thought she was being crafty by being magnanimous and reasonable with a crowd of devious elitist scum. Who was advising her??!!

They way she was goin I wouldn't have been surprised if she had ended up cleaning the toilets in Downing!

@Jbb999 who do you actually mean when you say AHPs?

Tory elite win again....you people voted them in!
Slaves and masters mentality!

Out manoevering a bunch of kindly nurses with their hands together begging for a payrise wasn't really a stretch for a bunch of elitist psychopaths Bread n' butter stuff for these guys.

They held out rightly before negotiations and knew they'd got the unions who would accept a little bit more as they had everyone exhausted

Now it's over...a rebellion won't work.... dare I say it with a mainly female workforce?

Watch the doctors get a lot more...and nurses helped them.....Plus ca change.....!

@Jbb999 ok so I'm guessing you don't mean allied health professionals when you talk about AHPs?

Allied Health Professionals, who else?

Okay not out freezing on the picket line, will that do. I have a sister a dietician, she's embarrassed when I bring up your " sitting back and let others do it" attitude. Do you feel any guilty nurses are left to fight for your payrise every year?

Ok then. So why the vitriol towards AHPs with suggestions that they spend all day sitting in offices? I don't really understand where you're coming from?

@Jbb999 unison and the CSP balloted for strike action too.

...and we're you out picketing?

I'm GMB. We were about to strike but we're told to stand down because we had finally been invited to the discussion table. Or are you suggesting we strike without the support of our own unions because RCN are @Jbb999 ? I also don't know what office you're referring to? There are clinical areas of a hospital other than wards. @jbb

The RCN didn't reach the threshold to strike at my trust.

I'm happy with it. But I did not support the strikes so in no position to complain. Shame the lump some is not tax free but it'll do me.

I do think that all countries should be paying the same though.

@BabbleBee I'm top 5. I did a band 6 secondment for 9 months, was financially worse off. And it really wasn't worth the extra stress. I didn't extend it any longer, and am much happier as a 5.

Office/clinic area ...all not outside. You're not to blame for Union decisions. Have you ever been on a picketing.
If it happens, which I doubt at least nurses may be taken out of AFC and in a better position position in future.
Yous may have to fight your own battles then......rather when the argument starts....always pushing the nurse forward

I'm done.

34 years of Nursing. 34 years of abuse in my body
I know have a spinal injury which was probably caused by lifts that we were trained to do but are now illegal.
34 years of missed Christmases and Easters. 34 years of irregular shift patterns so never being able to commit to anything on a regular basis.
34 years of sweat and tears.
Then came covid which has finished me off.
Cant afford to retire so will.have to look for something else.
I shall vote no for my colleagues but will also be walking away. When the union doesnt represent its members and nobody locally cares I need to walk away.
I am saddened by the fact that nurses have to use food banks. I am also disappointed by the infighting between staff whatever happened to team work for the benefit of our patients.

@PartingGift, I don't do back in my own trust. I do Agency elsewhere. I can be choosy about where I go, and pays better. It's been amazing for my confidence, and made me realise that my own work place gives excellent care. And I'm in the right place.

@Jbb999 the lack of complete sentences are making your arguement a little incoherent so I'll leave you to whatever it is.