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Nurses - what do you think to the pay offer?

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BabbleBee · 16/03/2023 17:46

Initially I thought 5%, hmmm ok. Then I looked at the breakdown and it’s around £1500 a year extra for your average B5. That’s not going to make much difference in the monthly pay is it….

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Calmdown14 · 16/03/2023 19:17

Don't forget that in Scotland although the percentage is higher, so too is the tax you pay on it (once over 25k anyway)

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Wowzel · 16/03/2023 19:19

I will vote no, it's not enough.

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caringcarer · 16/03/2023 19:19

Civil Service got 2 percent and no bonus.

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tiredpuppymum · 16/03/2023 19:20

Its an insult. Work is atrocious at the moment, I feel so sorry for the women I care for and this won’t help to improve anything at all. Im also sick of bleating on about the same old things I sound like a broken record.

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GPTec1 · 16/03/2023 19:22

Ladybug14 · 16/03/2023 18:53

It seems to me that the Government is doing very nicely thank you

Asked for - 19%

Settled for - 5%

🥺

Apologises if i'm wrong but..

they are getting this years pay rise, which is 3% plus a one off payment of, on avg £1600.

THEN next year i.e the 2023/24 pay award is 5%, Inflation might be quite a bit less than 5% by the end of 2023.

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Tiredmum100 · 16/03/2023 19:23

I think its disgusting. Yet again nurses are the laughing stocks. I am so fed up. I want the NHS to survive and it feels like its going down the drain pipe. I got in from my shift today and wanted to cry. My 11 year old ds had to hug me to make me feel better.

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Dilidali · 16/03/2023 19:24

I’ll be voting against it. It’s an insult.
And I’m definitely cancelling my RCN direct debit just as soon as I voted no.

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GoodChat · 16/03/2023 19:24

Dilidali · 16/03/2023 19:24

I’ll be voting against it. It’s an insult.
And I’m definitely cancelling my RCN direct debit just as soon as I voted no.

Is it not better to wait for the next offer before you cancel?

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cheeryios · 16/03/2023 19:28

It's shit.

I'm on UC so it'll just mess up my payments anyway and nothing else.

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scaryeleneve · 16/03/2023 19:32

they are getting this years pay rise, which is 3% plus a one off payment of, on avg £1600.


Is the 3% for this year what we are already in receipt of? Didn't we have a backdated pay award in September time - is that the 3%?

The payout is 2%. I'm the top of band 7 at around 45k. 2% of that is £900 - I keep seeing much bigger numbers quoted in articles but I don't understand where they are getting it from - what am I missing?

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WeCome1 · 16/03/2023 19:41

Calmdown14 · 16/03/2023 19:17

Don't forget that in Scotland although the percentage is higher, so too is the tax you pay on it (once over 25k anyway)

£6 more a month if you’re on £35,000.

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Battlecat98 · 16/03/2023 19:44

scaryeleneve · 16/03/2023 19:32

they are getting this years pay rise, which is 3% plus a one off payment of, on avg £1600.


Is the 3% for this year what we are already in receipt of? Didn't we have a backdated pay award in September time - is that the 3%?

The payout is 2%. I'm the top of band 7 at around 45k. 2% of that is £900 - I keep seeing much bigger numbers quoted in articles but I don't understand where they are getting it from - what am I missing?

Did you receive the RCN email? it details exactly how much each band and point will get.

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scaryeleneve · 16/03/2023 20:02

@Battlecat98 no, I'm an AHP and my (tiny) profession didn't strike.

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Dilidali · 16/03/2023 20:07

Here it is

Nurses - what do you think to the pay offer?
Nurses - what do you think to the pay offer?
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GPTec1 · 16/03/2023 20:20

So starting pay rises by 1400 to 28400 & will attract extra pension contributions and higher student loan repayments, so after tax/NI will around £60 per month.

Just been speaking to my niece, a band 5 AHP, she says it will not stop people leaving or help attract new students, she'll vote NO.

I don't understand the Unions recommending this.

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Lodgeornot · 16/03/2023 20:36

I'm in England, band 3. It means band2s will be paid more than me even though my job role requires a degree. I'll be voting to reject until we're offered on par with Scotland.

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scaryeleneve · 16/03/2023 20:49

Also - where is the money coming from? Sky news says it hasn't been specified so presumably they co7ld say it has to come from existing trust budgets? (Which will mean many jobs will go in order to pay it I guess)

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deltapips · 16/03/2023 21:51

Lodgeornot · 16/03/2023 20:36

I'm in England, band 3. It means band2s will be paid more than me even though my job role requires a degree. I'll be voting to reject until we're offered on par with Scotland.

How will band 2 be paid more than band 3?

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Orangebadger · 16/03/2023 21:56

Lodgeornot · 16/03/2023 20:36

I'm in England, band 3. It means band2s will be paid more than me even though my job role requires a degree. I'll be voting to reject until we're offered on par with Scotland.

Under agenda for change, a job requiring a degree is a minimum of a band 5.

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olympicsrock · 16/03/2023 21:58

It’s rubbish - hope it’s not accepted

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Tootyfilou · 16/03/2023 22:01

Its an insult. 5%! Inflation is running at 11.7%... what a joke. I really hope they will reject the offer but I think that is wishful thinking unfortunately RCN/RCM utterly pathetic. Too many people prepared to gratefully accept crumbs from the table.

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Zwicky · 16/03/2023 22:31

It’s an insult. I’m top of band 6 - the “offer” is lower than Scotland were paying before their deal. Under this deal I’ll be getting £3482 less than someone n scotland doing my exact same job - it’s nearly 9%. It’s a pisstake. And yes, I am planning to move but not for another 3 years or so.

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Bournetilly · 16/03/2023 23:17

It should be at least 10%, hope it’s rejected

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MumOf2workOptions · 16/03/2023 23:32

Bournetilly · 16/03/2023 23:17

It should be at least 10%, hope it’s rejected

I agree its pitiful

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LookingOldTheseDays · 16/03/2023 23:48

GPTec1 · 16/03/2023 19:22

Apologises if i'm wrong but..

they are getting this years pay rise, which is 3% plus a one off payment of, on avg £1600.

THEN next year i.e the 2023/24 pay award is 5%, Inflation might be quite a bit less than 5% by the end of 2023.

Inflation is the rate of price growth. Even if the rolling annual inflation figure goes down, those previous increases don't go away. Inflation reducing won't remove the need for salaries to have an uplift that reflects this year's cost of living growth.

Next year's increase should be additional to that, and should reflect next year's Inflation data.

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