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Really impressed with the budget

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Fullrecoveryispossible · 15/03/2023 13:34

I’ll give it to the chancellor. He delivered a bloody good budget today. Childcare reform (including increasing rates paid to providers by 30%) and 30 hours free for 1&2 year olds. Uk has avoided recession despite a global pandemic and Ukrainian war, more money on occupational health, plan to get more people into work

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KnittedCardi · 15/03/2023 14:41

NHS budget increase was dealt with the the November budget:

£3.3 billion cash boost for NHS England 2023/24 and 2024/25 compared to previous plans. NHS England spending rises by 2 per cent in real terms

And schools:

schools will receive £2.3bn of additional funding in both 2023-24 and 2024-25

GotABeatForYouMama · 15/03/2023 14:41

SybilWrites · 15/03/2023 14:33

What she says. lower income women (mostly single parents) will need to be "ready for work when their baby is 1" and also increased sanctions etc if they work under 18 hours a week. It's going to push far more low income women into the sanction regime.

And the 30 hour childcare offer is far from perfect if you are relying on it for your childcare needs while you work.

Add in also not being able to take shift work or 12 hour days. "what do you mean you've declined those jobs?......a sanction for you"

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 15/03/2023 14:41

@BramleyAppleHotCrossBun my thoughts exactly mine are both primary aged, no wraparound care, not enough childminders in the area, the one my DC go to already does school pick up in another area so can’t have mine for before or after school only holiday care. Was sincerely hoping for a rise in the tax free childcare as we make only just too much to qualify for any help yet are crippled with the costs in the holidays

TurnLeftAtTheBakery · 15/03/2023 14:42

I think the childcare improvements are good. I got excited at it and realized that it's not coming in right away. I'll be lucky to benefit for a few months which I guess is at least something but it would be great if it came in sooner.

Also, I'm not sure about your comment about not having a recession. I mean that's not much of a compliment to a government? Especially when you look at countries around us doing much better. There's still going to be shrinking and the growth figures have been revised downwards.

WeWereInParis · 15/03/2023 14:43

That’s a deeply worrying turn.

Especially with the rumoured removed of the ESA work capacity assessment and the replacement of a computer generated opinion.

@YetMoreNewBeginnings I don't think that's a rumour, I'm pretty sure he said the work capacity assessment would be removed.

outwiththeoldinwiththenewish · 15/03/2023 14:43

WoolyMammoth55 · 15/03/2023 14:04

I have a just-turned 2 yo and could really use the help with childcare costs.

But I see that these changes will come into effect after the next general election - i.e. NEVER.

But there's £££££ Billions right now for 'beefing up the military'. What a joke!

Anyone impressed by this government needs their head examined.

Yep, agreed.

A childcare pledge they won't be around to deliver on and the military boost to tap into the only 'policy' (Ukraine support) they have positive approval on.

Totally contrived and nothing to do with fixing the UK. They make my blood boil.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/03/2023 14:43

The energy price cap is guaranteed at 2,500 pa rather than 3,000. However that's still £200 a month or if you prefer 50 per week. Its probably not that much consolation for already severely impoverished families

KnittedCardi · 15/03/2023 14:44

Oh and social care as well, all in the November budget:

Social care charging reforms delayed by two years. £2.8 billion more funding in 2023/24 and £4.7 billion in 2024/25 in cash terms

Seriously, no skin the game, but different things get covered in different budgets.

WeWereInParis · 15/03/2023 14:44

Oops bold fail. Why does bold typing get removed if you @ someone?

BitchBrigade · 15/03/2023 14:44

ALL of those policies will conveniently only really start coming into play after the election. It's a ploy to win more votes. If they don't get into power they don't have to bother, if they do you can bet they backtrack HARD once they have control.

crustybreaddarling · 15/03/2023 14:45

Ooh, all this on top of the 40 new hospitals that Boris promised in 2019, due to be completed by 2030.

Our cups truly overfloweth.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/03/2023 14:46

How are all these sanctions legal. Where are the human right brigade in all this. Even convicted Paedophiles Rapists and child murders eat, FFS

BishopRock · 15/03/2023 14:46

socialmedia23 · 15/03/2023 14:31

I can't imagine labour cancelling the childcare provisions because labour are promising stuff that is even more radical. I was already budgeting for £2k per month childcare but I think I will delay ttc (am 30) so I will get this benefit.

This criticism that they won't be in power so the reform won't happen seems a bit misguided since the opposition party will either implement it or go further.

The real problem is finding the staff to ensure it can happen.

ant1234 · 15/03/2023 14:46

The childcare reforms really incentivise high earners to now go part time to earn under the 100k eligibility cap. For people hiring young professionals esp in the south east/London (where such salaries needed to afford family homes) there will be ever more requests for part time work I expect. ....

But yes broadly a good budget and it is right the priority re chkldcare has gone on those that need it most. I'm just pointing out it will have an odd side effect in some industries ...

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 15/03/2023 14:47

WeWereInParis · 15/03/2023 14:43

That’s a deeply worrying turn.

Especially with the rumoured removed of the ESA work capacity assessment and the replacement of a computer generated opinion.

@YetMoreNewBeginnings I don't think that's a rumour, I'm pretty sure he said the work capacity assessment would be removed.

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. It’s the computer programme assessment that’s rumoured.

astarsheis · 15/03/2023 14:47

Really?! They're literally just filling potholes. It always amazes me how quickly the British people are appeased when the Tories throw a few quid at them.

WimbyAce · 15/03/2023 14:48

Nothing for us surprise surprise!

socialmedia23 · 15/03/2023 14:48

ant1234 · 15/03/2023 14:46

The childcare reforms really incentivise high earners to now go part time to earn under the 100k eligibility cap. For people hiring young professionals esp in the south east/London (where such salaries needed to afford family homes) there will be ever more requests for part time work I expect. ....

But yes broadly a good budget and it is right the priority re chkldcare has gone on those that need it most. I'm just pointing out it will have an odd side effect in some industries ...

I didn't see there was a £100k eligibility cap for this scheme. And surely you can use salary sacrifice to get your pay under £100k

drivinmecrazy · 15/03/2023 14:48

I'm surprised no one has mentioned his aim to bring in Wrap sound childcare at all schools to provide all parents with 8-6 child care.

Bet schools will be thrilled with this, it won't only be their responsibility to educate your kids, they'll have to step up and provide childcare.
Disgusting !

QuietlyConfident · 15/03/2023 14:49

Architectahoy · 15/03/2023 14:20

I had childcare sorted from age 1.5 until they were 8ish. And then the school wraparound care and holiday club provision went tits up and cancelled.

So just because it'll help parents at the beginning - doesn't mean there'll be zero struggles later on as the child gets older.

Just be prepared x (we don't have grandparents who help!)

To be fair there was some stuff on extra funding for before and after school clubs in the budget, which is a genuinely sensible idea (and a win-win for parents and the Treasury if it stops mothers from losing jobs for want of a tiny amount of wrap around care).

GoodChat · 15/03/2023 14:49

astarsheis · 15/03/2023 14:47

Really?! They're literally just filling potholes. It always amazes me how quickly the British people are appeased when the Tories throw a few quid at them.

Did you miss the whole of the rest of the budget?

hattie43 · 15/03/2023 14:49

I think he's done really well . I especially like the help to regenerate areas of the north . The only bit I'm a bit meh with is the pensions LTA which will only effect a minority. I understand it was done to keep doctors and surgeons in work but why open it up to anyone .

BishopRock · 15/03/2023 14:49

WimbyAce · 15/03/2023 14:48

Nothing for us surprise surprise!

You don't drive or use grid electric and gas?

GoodChat · 15/03/2023 14:50

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/03/2023 14:46

How are all these sanctions legal. Where are the human right brigade in all this. Even convicted Paedophiles Rapists and child murders eat, FFS

The sanctions only come in to play if you don't adhere to the process - same as if I just decide to do half a job I'd have a disciplinary process at work.

Elphame · 15/03/2023 14:50

Nothing in it for me.

I will benefit slightly from the energy cap being held for 3 months but as a wine drinker that will probably be more than offset from the tax increase there.

Removing the LTA won't tempt me back into work - too late for that to make any real difference to my pension and I no longer have school age children so no benefit there either.