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Really impressed with the budget

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Fullrecoveryispossible · 15/03/2023 13:34

I’ll give it to the chancellor. He delivered a bloody good budget today. Childcare reform (including increasing rates paid to providers by 30%) and 30 hours free for 1&2 year olds. Uk has avoided recession despite a global pandemic and Ukrainian war, more money on occupational health, plan to get more people into work

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Dibbydoos · 15/03/2023 14:23

OMG are you hearing yourself?

Energy bills have doubled wiping out any benefit from this budget.

We are already in a recession and have been for 18m or so have you not heard how many lay offs there have been.

Wake the F up!

bendmeoverbackwards · 15/03/2023 14:25

Don’t fall for it!

The Tories will be out soon, their policies are meaningless. I’m far more interested in Labour’s policies. We’re just marking time till the next GE.

BishopRock · 15/03/2023 14:25

I thought a lot of the Budget was pretty good. I'm not going to diss it all because they're the Tories.

Increases to nursery time for mums who want to go back to work is overall a good thing, even though much of it will take time to come about. There's no use bringing it in from now or next year when there isn't the staff to implement it.

Helping disabled people to work if they want to sounds good, but I've got a feeling disabled people who just can't work won't be allowed to say they can't, there'll likely be something officially people can do even if realistically people can't.

More sanctions for UC jobseekers? Don't like this one. Sanctions cover incredibly innocuous things already and are brutal. This is Hunt's reminder that Tories are Tories.

Noteable by their absence- all the things forgotten about as a PP already mentioned, NHS, Justice etc etc. Support for carers, particularly those over 50! Completely forgotten about as usual.

On the face of it, creating more enterprise areas is a good idea, and continuing to invest and ancourage investment outside London.

Extending the Energy Cap is also good.

Nuclear not good.

The pothole fund increase is actually very helpful, if a bit left field.

I'd call it a mixed bag, generally positive, a couple of bad aspects, and much forgotten about.

GoodChat · 15/03/2023 14:27

Dibbydoos · 15/03/2023 14:23

OMG are you hearing yourself?

Energy bills have doubled wiping out any benefit from this budget.

We are already in a recession and have been for 18m or so have you not heard how many lay offs there have been.

Wake the F up!

How can them doubling wipe out any benefit? If the budget wasn't put in place you'd be paying the energy bills plus any additional outgoings you wouldn't otherwise benefit from.

GotABeatForYouMama · 15/03/2023 14:27

It's done bugger all to help us.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 15/03/2023 14:28

ShirleyPhallus · 15/03/2023 14:15

Well yes. As usual 🙄

Why don’t you/DH just pay the excess into your pension to bring you under the threshold, that’s what we’ll be doing!

BishopRock · 15/03/2023 14:28

Oh, and also prepayment meters - that's a fantastic aspect of the Budget. A scandal that those least able to pay their bills are penalised by paying the most! Glad that's being abolished. And the freeze on compulsory meter installation also continues.

WeWereInParis · 15/03/2023 14:29

I'm also concerned about the slip in of helping disabled people find work without their benefits stopping.....that doesn't sound very Conservative Govt to me.

Yes, when he said that disabled people could start working without worrying their benefits would stop, DH and I both turned to each other and said "probably because they'll already have taken them away!"

socialmedia23 · 15/03/2023 14:31

Redlocks30 · 15/03/2023 14:20

Disappointing. There was some stuff to benefit rich people and some promises to try and placate people who haven’t got pregnant yet. I wonder how many people will have a baby based on today’s headlines and then realise too late that either the Tories get booted out at the election so none of it happens, or there are simply not enough childcare places for all these extra children so they can’t get a place!

I can't imagine labour cancelling the childcare provisions because labour are promising stuff that is even more radical. I was already budgeting for £2k per month childcare but I think I will delay ttc (am 30) so I will get this benefit.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 15/03/2023 14:31

WeWereInParis · 15/03/2023 14:29

I'm also concerned about the slip in of helping disabled people find work without their benefits stopping.....that doesn't sound very Conservative Govt to me.

Yes, when he said that disabled people could start working without worrying their benefits would stop, DH and I both turned to each other and said "probably because they'll already have taken them away!"

That’s a deeply worrying turn.

Especially with the rumoured removed of the ESA work capacity assessment and the replacement of a computer generated opinion.

EmGB87 · 15/03/2023 14:32

Yoshithegreen · 15/03/2023 14:21

If you earn over 100k you don’t get any free hours but I struggle to see why high earns would need it? Over the age of three you still get 15 free hours

@Yoshithegreen because people who only just earn the £100k are still struggling. I know it’s all relative and there will always be worse off. But with high mortgages and high outgoings people are really struggling.

2 earners in one house could both earn £99k each and get all the help. But in another household one person could earn £100k and the other £16k and get no help. It doesn’t make sense. I strongly believe it should be household income combined.

Sweetladyjane · 15/03/2023 14:33

I'm in the work capability group for UC and I'm terrified about what the changes will mean to me.

Postapocalypticcowgirl · 15/03/2023 14:33

The public sector is on its knees (NHS, Education, Social care and more) and he didn't even mention it.

That's not impressive at all.

I guess the distraction tactics of a childcare policy he will never have to fully implement are impressive in some ways.

SybilWrites · 15/03/2023 14:33

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 15/03/2023 13:47

I’m amazed more people aren’t seeing the childcare thing for what it will inevitably end up being.

Its a tactic to lower the age people on benefits (women usually) will have full time work requirements or be sanctioned.

Which with the increase in ratios and the problems that nurseries have been talking about is going to lead to either people being sanctioned because they simply can’t find childcare or children ending up in substandard childcare.

There’s always a hidden meaning behind seemingly generous reforms - the bereavement benefit changes show that very clearly.

What she says. lower income women (mostly single parents) will need to be "ready for work when their baby is 1" and also increased sanctions etc if they work under 18 hours a week. It's going to push far more low income women into the sanction regime.

And the 30 hour childcare offer is far from perfect if you are relying on it for your childcare needs while you work.

AreMyDucksinarow · 15/03/2023 14:34

It’s all a smoke screen

Once again (as a high earner) I get feck all apart from a bigger tax bill

Childcare completely irrelevant to me as mine are a lot older

MissHavishamsMouldyOldCake · 15/03/2023 14:34

BramleyAppleHotCrossBun · 15/03/2023 13:44

Gosh I wonder why they chose that date they will never have to enact this because they won't be in power by then

Exactly. Grin
Can't people see that??

sunnydaytoday0 · 15/03/2023 14:35

I guess some people are easily pleased.

Winemygoodenemy · 15/03/2023 14:35

I work in nhs and was hoping pay would be mentioned. I can’t see anything on this.

SheilaFentiman · 15/03/2023 14:37

Pay settlements wouldn't be put in a budget, I don't think.

Train007 · 15/03/2023 14:38

Social care is on its knees which has a knock on effect on the NHS ..absolutely nothing !

MarshaBradyo · 15/03/2023 14:38

I can’t recall a budget that has benefited us particularly although the 30 hours must have at one point. Can’t recall when it happened.

We’re not paid by the state and children not in cc anymore.

Anyway good news for those benefiting.

AuntieJoyce · 15/03/2023 14:39

AreMyDucksinarow · 15/03/2023 14:34

It’s all a smoke screen

Once again (as a high earner) I get feck all apart from a bigger tax bill

Childcare completely irrelevant to me as mine are a lot older

You get the opportunity to put more into your pension to reduce your tax bill

Logicoutofthewindow · 15/03/2023 14:39

Not impressed. What about social care? Badly underfunded already.

If you have children and will gain free childcare then great but there are a lot of people who don't have children under 5. I imagine that is more about 'persuading' women (in the main) to pop children into childcare and return to work. There is a shortage in some jobs areas that needs filling.

katmarie · 15/03/2023 14:41

SybilWrites · 15/03/2023 14:33

What she says. lower income women (mostly single parents) will need to be "ready for work when their baby is 1" and also increased sanctions etc if they work under 18 hours a week. It's going to push far more low income women into the sanction regime.

And the 30 hour childcare offer is far from perfect if you are relying on it for your childcare needs while you work.

I think this is really important. This budget is dressed up as lots of carrots to try and encourage people back into work, but if you pull back the curtain there will be some fairly big sticks as well.

Owlatnight · 15/03/2023 14:41

Nurseries were charging under 3s huge amounts as state payments were not covering costs. If state payments cover more years presumably more nurseries will go bust

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