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DP sacked - handhold please

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Springbluebell · 13/03/2023 17:02

I need a handhold really.

DP has just been sacked. We both live with our respective parents, he moved back a few months ago after tenancy ended and I used to rent but COVID ruined my life and I still haven’t financially recovered and had to move back.

His boss is horrible, I know him personally. He has always picked on DP despite him trying his best. Owners of the company visit and often commend his work which makes his boss very irate. It isn’t even in DPs nature to argue back or fan the flames of conflict. Today stemmed from DP completing his list of tasks early, his boss complained things that weren’t on the list weren’t done. DP pointed out they were not on his tasks and his boss blew up as he usually does and sacked him.

We have been working so hard, we were finally going to be able to have enough to rent in a few months and have a home to call our own again. I suffer from mental health conditions as does he but we both make sure we get up and go to work and try to claw our way out of a bad position mentally and with our housing situations as we both have extremely toxic and abusive family. I am only able to work part time and his job was paid well enough especially for his field of work.

I’m just heartbroken, in shock and I feel sick. He will find work again but this will set us back for months. I’m so tired of setbacks in life. I feel desperately sad for my DP. I know this is going to be so difficult for him, not to mention his family will blame him and kick him while down.

Just looking for some support. I’m on my way to meet DP now

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EmilyGilmoresSass · 14/03/2023 14:04

Bearpawk · 14/03/2023 12:34

Sorry I agree this thread is overly dramatic and immature sounding.
A 'handhold' is usually more suited to a parent with a dying child or parent in hospital, not a young adult with no financial responsibilities who's boyfriend who can live at his family home is going to have to find a new job.

Watch you aren't called nasty like me 😅

PyongyangKipperbang · 14/03/2023 15:47

adriftindenofvipers · 14/03/2023 12:53

Ya think??? How impossibly naive you are!

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Quite.

Seen it happen loads, it happened to me once. Small place owned by a couple who decided that I was no longer needed so binned me off mid shift and witheld all my pay and holiday pay. Got it eventually but only because I know people who could help me with the legalese.

Small chains or independently run pubs and restaurants can do pretty much as they please as there is almost no come back from (often young) staff who dont earn much and certainly not enough to instruct an employment lawyer or even afford the fees for small claims, if they are even aware that they can make a claim which they are often not.

Noodlehen · 14/03/2023 21:55

Springbluebell · 13/03/2023 23:41

His job was a permanent managerial role actually. So it was stable and also salaried.

I also work in childcare but can only work part time due to health reasons and work all the hours I can physically manage.

How is this immature?

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Ok; if it was stable and salaried and he was a manager he would know he couldn’t be fired so stop telling lies 🤣

I called you immature due to the following points:

  • covid “ruined my life” with no further clarification when asked
  • Both have abusive families but are paying your way at home. Clearly you could both rent in a shared house. You can even get ones that accept couples.
  • Heartbroken, in shock and feel sick - as others have mentioned, this is a job in hospitality so there are a lot out there at the minute, he even managed to bag an interview the same day. Those are very extreme emotions when something is easily solved.
  • You spend a lot of time at his work (as a place of leisure) but you can’t use that time to earn more money due to health issues??????
  • The mention of you being in his house because his parents are away, suggests you couldn’t be there if they were
  • DP asking several times if you will leave him. He’s already had an interview and works in a field crying out for staff, you don’t live together or have any joint financial responsibilities????
  • The “So. Yeah” in response to a post from someone else sounds like something a 12 year old would say.
  • Like a PP said handholds are normally reserved for something of a more serious nature

All these things added up sound incredibly immature. It’s not a handhold you need it’s a dose of cop on.

PyongyangKipperbang · 14/03/2023 23:04

Noodlehen · 14/03/2023 21:55

Ok; if it was stable and salaried and he was a manager he would know he couldn’t be fired so stop telling lies 🤣

I called you immature due to the following points:

  • covid “ruined my life” with no further clarification when asked
  • Both have abusive families but are paying your way at home. Clearly you could both rent in a shared house. You can even get ones that accept couples.
  • Heartbroken, in shock and feel sick - as others have mentioned, this is a job in hospitality so there are a lot out there at the minute, he even managed to bag an interview the same day. Those are very extreme emotions when something is easily solved.
  • You spend a lot of time at his work (as a place of leisure) but you can’t use that time to earn more money due to health issues??????
  • The mention of you being in his house because his parents are away, suggests you couldn’t be there if they were
  • DP asking several times if you will leave him. He’s already had an interview and works in a field crying out for staff, you don’t live together or have any joint financial responsibilities????
  • The “So. Yeah” in response to a post from someone else sounds like something a 12 year old would say.
  • Like a PP said handholds are normally reserved for something of a more serious nature

All these things added up sound incredibly immature. It’s not a handhold you need it’s a dose of cop on.

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Do you feel better for that? All superior and clever?

As I and others have said several times, if he was with the company for less than 2 years, they can pretty much do whatever they like as he has virtually no employment rights. Also it has been pointed out that this is something that happens a great deal in hospitality where a lot of the staff are young, naive and earning too little to have any realistic chance of ever getting any legal help and redress, even if they know their rights which a lot dont. Fucks sake, I know people who have been in jobs a lot longer, much higher paid, very intelligent and know their rights who have been royally fucked over and never got what they were owed or deserved.

But hey, you carry on talking about things you clearly have no experience of.

Calliell · 21/03/2023 17:53

LemonGelato · 13/03/2023 20:39

Did you read your sister the bit where the OPs says he's not worked there for 2 years?

Because you cannot claim unfair dismissal in an employment tribunal if you have less than 2 years service. You can claim for discriminatory acts but there is no sign that is the case here.

Yes, he is entitled to accrued untaken statutory annual leave as others have commented and should write to demand that is paid along with any contractual notice period.

As it's hospitality I would not be surprised there is no written contract of employment though.

@dittbtdity See above. Unfortunately an employer can indeed sack someone with less than 2 years service for any reasons (or no reason) and without any due process. There are NO statutory procedures for dismissal under 2 years which may surprise you but its true. There might be risks about claims of discrimination when sacking someone wit shorter length of service but if those are low then employers might not to be too concerned about that.

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I read it all. Dsis said unfair dismissal is applicable as long as any employee has passed a probationary period.

OhFortheLoveOv · 26/03/2023 20:23

It can be applicable but normally unfair dismissal usually only applies after 2years however there are caveats to this, namely if the dismissal is automatically unfair… then the two year rule doesn’t apply…This is usually because the employer dismissal is due to a protected characteristic Etc maternity, trade union membership, whistleblowing etc.

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