Australian state plans to poach 31,000 British doctors, nurses, police officers, teachers and other skilled workers

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London schools are full of ANZUK teachers , if they all had to go we would be stuffed.

I'm a Western Australian hospital consultant, the stories the UK and Irish junior doctors tell about their working conditions....It's no wonder they leave.
It's not just about pay, but lack of senior support on the wards. It sounds like when I was a junior here in WA 25 years ago, we have moved on fortunately, things aren't perfect of course but they used to much worse, like the UK seems still to be

Could that not be brexit related? That there hasn't actually been an increase but EU professionals now have to apply for a visa when they didn't before? It might not be an over all increase, it's just more visible now.

I'm Australian and have lived here for 20 years.

DH is from the UK.

We are considering it. I have had some alot of racism against me at work (my line manager having a screaming hissy fit in my face asking why I should get a job here and jobs should be for British people). People thinking it is acceptable to take the piss out of us stupid uneducated thick Australians. I earn £28 k as a qualified solicitor in a deprived rural area and would earn over £80 k for a similar role near where my parents live.

TBH I am a big believer in economic migration. You don't value me or my taxes here then we'll go somewhere that does.

Only thing stopping me at the moment is that one of my Dcs is desperate to go to university in Paris in afew years time.

This is hardly new. My accountant cousin moved there way back in the 1980s. He's no high flyer - just does his job. But there he has a detached house with a pool. Here he might get a terrace with postage stamp garden. The only downside is distance from family.

Not sure how you’d compare to find out. We have more people coming to U.K. than pre Brexit and skilled working visa larger proportion.

Beyond that you might have to do the maths I’m afraid as can’t see how to do it definitively.

Mustard sorry to hear that. I’ve been here similar and had much more at the start but now not really. But I’m in a very mixed area which might help. I have noticed a shift over time though.

The racism is awful. I received some comments too after brexit about me needing move back home if I was going to speak my language on the phone to my mum. £28K as a solicitor is astonishingly low though. Are you working part-time hours? If that is full-time you need to leave.

Thanks @MarshaBradyo I have spoken of this many a time on MN under various names and usually get dismissed as being delusional.

If you had asked me 10 years ago I would have said the Uk was my 'death country'. The place I would chose to live in until my dying days.

Not any more.

Me neither and I am definitely not an expert in the area. it's really positive if there are lots of skilled professionals moving to the UK, it's definitely needed now and for a long time to come I think.

I hope the person who suggested such a dreadful scheme said they would be happy to train for one of these jobs under such conditions.

I am not working part time hours. £28 k for a solicitor in the regional and rural area si by no means uncommon. I earned £16 k training then went to £21 k. I work in mostly legally aided areas and family law. Stupid thing is i retrained when i was over 40 because I thought I would earn more ultimately. I left a job in the charity sector paying £44 k.

No you’re not delusional. It was bad when I got here. I love London and will cling to it for as long as it inspires me, I sometimes feel like I’m the only one on mn though who will be left living here ;

I hear different accents around me every day so I think that helps a bit. I know it’s a huge decision though so hope it all goes well

I am absolutely shocked by that. I always thought solicitors made much more money than that. Which I guess they do, but elsewhere.

We are considering it. I have had some alot of racism against me at work (my line manager having a screaming hissy fit in my face asking why I should get a job here and jobs should be for British people). People thinking it is acceptable to take the piss out of us stupid uneducated thick Australians. I earn £28 k as a qualified solicitor in a deprived rural area and would earn over £80 k for a similar role near where my parents live

Absolutely shocking, so wrong.. i hope your experience is a rare one.

Got 2 couples from SAfrica and Australia down here in our village in Cornwall, both love it, they retired here from their home countries as they had British passports.

The Australians i worked with were super smart & had great work ethics, gone back now, came to London for the experience and to earn money ... good on em.

Well, if you look up law jobs on the various job hunting websites (which i did always when my firm offered me such a low wage!!) it does show that the rurual and regional areas pay shit amounts.

I actually did leave my job recently. I had had enough, not least because i was sitting in McDonalds once and they had a 'We are recruiting' poster and the rates quoted were higher than my rates! The firm charged me out at £250 an hour and I was earning London living wage. . So actually I should technically be using past tense, but it still seems very present. But i only left last year. Now I am feelancing a bit here and there and looking for something else.

FWIW my cousin in Australia is the head teacher of a state school. This is just hearsay but my proud aunt tells me she earns AUD $250,000 a year. Currency converter tells me this is £137,000. I have not checked pay bands but I have no particular reason to believe my aunt is blowing sunshine up it.

A few things
1- the U.K. might still be attractive to people from countries like South Africa/India/Pakistan.
2- eu citizens now have to apply for a visa. The U.K. is nit attractive anymore - poor quality of life, xenophobia (thank Brexit), poor pay and conditions etc… we can’t manage to convince fruit pickers to come over when it was once a very attractive thing to do
3- since there is no free movement anymore, there is a need to compensate for the eu citizens who arent coming anymore and fir those who left (many of them!). Hence more visa from other places. Plus the visa of eu citizens who are still willing to come (not sure how many but I doubt it’s much)

Basically I wouldn’t take that as a sign that the U.K. is an attractive place. It WAS. But the shamble that brexit is, it’s impact on the economy, the current crazy policies (in general btw) of the current government aren’t going unnoticed.
That’s also all the things that make the U.K. not such a nice place to live and the reasons why people are leaving to sunnier places (not always with sun btw. Many doctors and nurses are moving to Canada for example)

Govt also needs to get its act together on Horizon, we can ill afford scientists leaving/not choosing the UK over USA and/or EU.

Its not just about cash either.. its collaboration with overseas partners too.

Visa costs are absurd, cash requirements in the bank as well as health insurance costs... all for stressed and low paid work.

the U.K. might still be attractive to people from countries like South Africa/India/Pakistan.

Net migration is up overall with people from outside EU higher since Brexit which isn’t surprising, but I’d not discount skilled people or those meeting more casual visas from there, they’re good to have too.

Although they have skills, too many are Not Work Ready and need additional training, which is difficult for an NHS already in crisis.

It's not just solicitors that are paid low in the uk, it's accountants, people who work in IT, engineers, etc.

When I read things like this I always image that the Australians are setting traps like pits covered in leaves with a plate of freshly barbecued shrimp balanced on top. Sorry I’m completely missing the point.

Both my dns ( just qualified teacher and doctor) are going in September. D nephew (young doctor) is already there and having the time of his life. Why wouldn’t they go?

Ds is in his firsat year after qualifying as a radiographer, I'm strongly encouraging him to consider Australia.

Agree 100%. I’ve also moved from the UK and have no regrets.