What is going on at the BBC right now?

[LookItsMeAgain]

What with the news breaking today ( 10/03/23) that Lineker is to step back from presenting Match of the Day and now Ian Wright is also not going to appear on the show in solidarity. They also have said that they will not air a David Attenborough (what the hell did he do/say that pushed their buttons) episode due to fears of a right-wing backlash. On top of that, Fiona Bruce has said that Stanley Johnson 'only' broke his wife's nose once (I mean just how many times is too many, I ask ye).

What the hell is going on at the BBC right now????

Sources:
David Attenborough being cancelled
Gary Lineker stepping back from MotD
Ian Wright standing by Gary
Fiona Bruce story

Just wondering if anyone can make sense of what is going on in the BBC at the moment.

"Do you have a limit on how many are a yes or if criteria is met is it unlimited?"

I dont consider myself furnished with enough information to set caps and limits. I'm sure there are clever people at the Home Office that will be able to make those calculations and work within our national and international obligations.

However I'd assume this man is in the know

"Former refugees minister Tory peer Lord Harrington tells me:

• for Govt to take "moral high ground" legal asylum routes must exist

• Braverman's words "not language I'd have chosen".

• "Quite realistic" to say we can absorb 40k refugees a year."

Ok we take 40k per year as an example

Then the next person, the 40,001st, who is desperate and can find a smuggler to organise a boat what do we do when they arrive?

TBF to Braverman, she was raised in a cult. Her mistrust of outsiders and the Law is indicative of Cult mentality.

Interesting that I am being reported for posts that show how difficult my life is, the ones that others reading would have empathy for people in my situation.

Says it all.

Maybe tweet Gary and ask him what he knows of Foucault.

"Then the next person, the 40,001st, who is desperate and can find a smuggler to organise a boat what do we do when they arrive?"

I don't know. What's your answer?

I think we’ll need a combination of help in France for money and a new legal framework to deal with boats.

Which is pretty much what they are going for

Safe routes are separate, it’s the boat issue that is very hard to solve.

Even with safe routes set up another 80k can cross by boat if wanted and without border control in France (not return but stopping criminals) plus new law I can’t see how it resolves.

So my answer is use new law plus border control via France.

GPTec1 · Yesterday 19:20

What happened in Germany in the late 20s and early 30s can happen anywhere, papers like the Mail supported Hitler back then.

www.gale.com/intl/archives-explored/daily-mail-historical-archive-highlights

www.timesofisrael.com/how-britains-nazi-loving-press-baron-made-the-case-for-hitler/

@Cornettoninja

The quote is originally from a Lutheran Pastor in 1946. I used to have a poster of it in my classroom.

But yes, totally stand by Linekar and have complained to the BBC over their treatment of him. I hope he sues them. I hate the way they're stopping people speaking out against the Tories, particularly on this abhorrent policy.

Oh please.

Who accompanies the children/elderly? Who is the safer demographic to send to other countries as refugees? Which sex is most likely to be raped by members of their own army? Of course if women wish to enlist they should be able to, but conscription for women should never be mandatory. You’re being so incredibly naive.

I dont consider myself furnished with enough information to set caps and limits. I'm sure there are clever people at the Home Office that will be able to make those calculations and work within our national and international obligations.

But that’s the point, there isn’t one. Each and every person who lands in our country is entitled to an asylum claim. You legally cannot put a cap on it. So as long as we have the current asylum laws, and as long as the U.K. is destination of choice, there is bugger all we can do to control the numbers beyond stopping the boats.

And do you think a change of government will happen if the red wall and working classes see the Tories as the party of refugees and generous benefits for them?

Yeh I was a bit hmm at that. A look at Ukraine horrors to women and children would make many leave, as has happened.

*Labour

I sommersi e i salvati

So many posters on here actually stun me with their naivety. As in, stun me. This wishful thinking, that inspirational quotes are actually a response to a question, like saying something should happen means it will without addressing how. So many ideals yet so few practical ways of making them work.

Ukraine is an excellent example of what should happen when faced with an invading force. They mobilised their army (who didn’t run off), organised evacuations for women and children and the elderly, conscripted men whom met the relevant criteria, and appealed for help in terms of weaponry and funding from other countries. They have nothing but respect from me and the international community have been generous in their response and desperate to take the refugees, knowing they were the most vulnerable and at risk of rape and exploitation.

The precise opposite has happened in Afghanistan. The army ran off and abandoned their people despite the best training and state of the art equipment. The men have abandoned their women and children to god knows what while they run for it. And now they want to come here despite passing through numerous safe and affluent countries, before blaming us for not making it easier for them.

There are serious concerns about the safety of British women in areas with many unchecked men from an extremely patriarchal society. On any other thread Mumsnet always have the women’s backs. Not this one 🤷🏼‍♀️ it’s like with transwomen, people so desperate to paint men as the ‘true victims’ for the sake of wokery and appearing left wing that they see the safety of women as an acceptable price to pay. It isn’t.

Ultimately all this sorry state of affairs will drive central people to the far right because the left were too busy calling them bigots to take their concerns seriously.

As nice it is to post inspirational quotes it’s not going to address what the U.K. does when, after it sets up more safe routes and has handed 1/2 £bn to France, boats are still arriving.

Is that you Carrie?

I’m guessing whatever the U.K. does, the posters here so in favour of increasing the number of asylum seekers arriving here will be hoping the HMOs and refugee ‘hotels’ aren’t set up on their nice leafy middle class roads. That the bored young men waiting for their claims to be processed won’t be hanging around their daughter’s school. And that when they’re on the pathway for an urgent medical treatment they’re not a member of a surgery that has just taken on another few hundred people although they’re already overwhelmed. Do as I say, not as I do.

The best way to reduce the number of Asylum Seekers in hotels is to process their claims in an efficient and timely way so they can work and contribute to UK society.

I say that as a poor, working class woman who lives in the inner city, close to a number of Asylum hotels housing men, women and children.

"As nice it is to post inspirational quotes it’s not going to address what the U.K. does when, after it sets up more safe routes and has handed 1/2 £bn to France, boats are still arriving."

And you clearly think an unworkable & costly mess of a policy that will take years to implement (you'll see nothing before 2025) and break international conventions is the straightforward practical response?

Never mind I'm sure a Tory donor will do nicely out of building those detention centres.

I can’t see any other way to stop boats arriving. Even with safe routes.

If people want boats to keep turning up that’s a different result.

But if they say they’ll solve it with safe routes, it’s unlikely.

It’s also an issue of voter pressure which is pretty strong and likely to increase.

It can be done, other countries have done it but it takes lot and is not easy.

Oh. My. God.

You should not be struggling with your bills, neither should I.

But you are a total fool to blame those even poorer than yourself. You are falling for the oldest trick in the book - pointing at a scapegoat while the rich make ever more money.

My anger about the fuel bills I'm paying is directed at the shareholders of the energy companies who are rolling in extra cash - with full support of the government.

Don't have the wool pulled over your eyes.

@Notonthestairs An efficient well run fast asylum application process is a deterrent in itself.

No it isn't.
When we can't deport those who's claims fail, because we are hamstrung by various Human Rights Laws, it makes the whole situation ineffectual.