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Finally ! Therese Coffey tells it like it is. If you need more money, work longer.

402 replies

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2023 17:28

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64745258

Hurrah for the voice of reason. Now this is the sort of person we need as Prime Minister.

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jgw1 · 23/02/2023 20:58

EffortlessDesmond · 23/02/2023 20:57

When all of mumnset aspire to be comedic, based on the first 25 posts, this is going nowhere.

Effortlessly the best post on this thread @EffortlessDesmond

LavenderHillMob · 23/02/2023 20:58

havetochangethis · 23/02/2023 17:35

I could work all the hours I wanted, but I still wouldn't get any overtime pay!

Yeah, that is a teeny little problem!

LittleMG · 23/02/2023 20:59

OldChinaJug · 23/02/2023 17:44

I'm a teacher. I work 7.30 - 6pm at school.

I've got a first class degree and an MA.

I'm not on a low income - M5 - but I'm a single parent so a single income household.

I'd like to know her solution for me.

This

Aintnosupermum · 23/02/2023 21:00

So what news are the clowns looking to hide?

The UK is in decline. It’s not a place to live if you are working age because it doesn’t pay to work. If you have children and work you are screwed. I can’t afford to return to the UK. With what I’d pay in taxes, it covers boarding school fees for my 3 children. My peers in the UK make a fraction of what I make. Wages are so ridiculously low it’s a wonder anyone works as an employee.

MissingMoominMamma · 23/02/2023 21:00

catandcoffee · 23/02/2023 20:27

🥕 couldn't find a turnip so will a carrot do 🙂

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It won’t last as long- you’ll need to break for lunch to restock their supply…

newnamethanks · 23/02/2023 21:01

Going nowhere? I reckon MN contributors could easily fill a couple of hours on C4 on a Friday night.

Throwncrumbs · 23/02/2023 21:02

I think it’s more of a message to those who work the minimum hours to get the maximum UC, I couldn’t agree more!!

ancientgran · 23/02/2023 21:02

Back in the 70s inflation was rife, interest rates were high. I worked with a man who did a normal 9 to 5 office job. He went home, had dinner with wife and kids then she went off to do a night shift, he got the kids to bed and got up at 5 am to get ready for work, she got home 5.30 and then he did 2 hrs at a local petrol station before coming in to work. I suppose she got a couple of hours sleep before getting kids off to school. I never thought we'd go back to that sort of miserable existence. I despair.

jgw1 · 23/02/2023 21:04

Throwncrumbs · 23/02/2023 21:02

I think it’s more of a message to those who work the minimum hours to get the maximum UC, I couldn’t agree more!!

Don't be daft.
Therese spotted that Suella was playing to the righter parts of the Conservative party and so had to have her own stab at it, I'm sure it played will with the roots of the party.

PerkingFaintly · 23/02/2023 21:05

I'm sure it played will with the roots of the party.

I see what you did there.GrinGrinGrin

pigsinoodies · 23/02/2023 21:06

ancientgran · 23/02/2023 21:02

Back in the 70s inflation was rife, interest rates were high. I worked with a man who did a normal 9 to 5 office job. He went home, had dinner with wife and kids then she went off to do a night shift, he got the kids to bed and got up at 5 am to get ready for work, she got home 5.30 and then he did 2 hrs at a local petrol station before coming in to work. I suppose she got a couple of hours sleep before getting kids off to school. I never thought we'd go back to that sort of miserable existence. I despair.

You try and tell the young people of today that ... they won't believe you.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2023 21:06

Mooshamoo · 23/02/2023 19:57

Rich people have no concept of being poor, and they think it is poor people's fault that they are poor. They think "why can't poor people better themselves to stop being poor"

When I was in school, I was pretty poor. I grew up with a single mother. My friend had two parents with good jobs, she was rich.

We were talking about rich and poor people once. And she said "but my parents deserved to be rich, they worked hard for it".

I pointed out to her that it's not always about working hard.

I told her that my father left us, he wouldn't pay maintenance, and no matter how hard my mother worked, we were still poor.

Rich people genuinely think it is poor people's fault that they are poor.

They think, "why just not stop being poor?". Like it's so easy.

I think Paris Hilton wore a t-shirt once that said "stop being poor"

This attitude has always been with us. The idea of the deserving and undeserving poor changes and evolves constantly. In Victorian times the wives of rich industrialists sat on charity committees and pretty much decided whether the ‘deserving’ were helped, and the ‘undeserving’ went to the workhouse.

RobertaFirmino · 23/02/2023 21:07

Therese Coffin can fuck off. That is all.

RafaistheKingofClay · 23/02/2023 21:09

Throwncrumbs · 23/02/2023 21:02

I think it’s more of a message to those who work the minimum hours to get the maximum UC, I couldn’t agree more!!

That’s easy enough to solve. Reverse son of Cameron’s changes. Increase the point at which you start reducing tax credit and decrease the taper rate. Or properly find childcare or increase living wage to real living wage. Eat turnips and upskill when opportunities for that are limited is a non starter. But Coffey knows that. Even she isn’t that stupid.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2023 21:10

pigsinoodies · 23/02/2023 21:06

You try and tell the young people of today that ... they won't believe you.

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I had two jobs in the 1970’s. Full time office work 8.30-5.30pm and an evening job from 6-9pm mon-fri. A 12 hour day, and thought it was the norm.

BeautifulDayintheneighbourhood · 23/02/2023 21:11

whatever1980 · 23/02/2023 17:40

Who looks after the kids if you're out working every hour? What with childcare being extortionate and/or non existent after core hours

My first thought. Does she have kids herself?

luckylavender · 23/02/2023 21:12

OldChinaJug · 23/02/2023 17:44

I'm a teacher. I work 7.30 - 6pm at school.

I've got a first class degree and an MA.

I'm not on a low income - M5 - but I'm a single parent so a single income household.

I'd like to know her solution for me.

I think she suggested retraining to get a better job 🙄

Northernsoullover · 23/02/2023 21:12

I unskilled. Recently. I did well to get a higher paid job. So from minimum wage and tax credits to 38k. Guess what? I'm still struggling. More than when I got benefits because of the COL crisis. Rent, council tax, fuel bills see me with around 400 left to feed and clothe 3 of us. Plus transport costs. Fuck it.

luckylavender · 23/02/2023 21:13

MelchiorsMistress · 23/02/2023 17:51

Obviously it’s not as simple as ‘just get another job’ but do we really have to behave as if working for a living is an outrageous suggestion?

🙄

pigsinoodies · 23/02/2023 21:13

DotAndCarryOne2 · 23/02/2023 21:10

I had two jobs in the 1970’s. Full time office work 8.30-5.30pm and an evening job from 6-9pm mon-fri. A 12 hour day, and thought it was the norm.

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I've slaved away myself, all my life. I didn't really understand that most people's lives have got considerably easier since I started work over 40 years ago.

(It was a quote from a well-known comedy sketch though - I wasn't trivialising people's life experiences)

luckylavender · 23/02/2023 21:15

RaininSummer · 23/02/2023 18:23

It does seem to be news to some people to be honest that they need to work and/upskill. Obviously doesn't apply to those in decent jobs already who are struggling.

Really not helpful

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 23/02/2023 21:17

I had two jobs in the 1970’s. Full time office work 8.30-5.30pm and an evening job from 6-9pm mon-fri. A 12 hour day, and thought it was the norm

My mum was a widow in the 70’s. She worked flexi time. I thought it was the norm.

Solonge · 23/02/2023 21:24

Oh my God...are you for real? you like the pissed up Coffey? you like a bully who tells people to eat Turnip because there are no tomatoes because of Brexshit. What we actually need are fewer fuckwits voting Tory and the twats that voted Brexshit realising they have totally fucked up the UK.

SemperIdem · 23/02/2023 21:30

Listen to the Tory pig! Work harder for LESS!

EhLov · 23/02/2023 21:30

Who do the govt. expect to do all the useful / essential NMW jobs if everyone is off upskilling and promoting?

And where do they expect them to afford to live?

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