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Another dog attack- 4 year old killed. Devastating

534 replies

singingsussie · 01/02/2023 06:14

Just woke up to this news this morning. It's just so incredibly heartbreaking for all involved. Seems to be happening so much more than ever these days

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aintnothinbutagstring · 01/02/2023 16:39

It's not just a certain type of dog that always seem to be involved in these incidents, it's a certain type of person/family in certain neighbourhoods that see these dogs as status symbols - and they put that above the safety of their own children - very sad to show such little protective instinct.

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 16:45

Twentypast · 01/02/2023 14:08

The vast majority of these attacks take place at home by the family pet. Muzzling in public would have little to no effect.

I have a medium size breed (she's 11kg). Bred to be a companion breed. She's chipped etc. Chipping is compulsory but Facebook groups are full of "dog found, taken to vet, not chipped"

I have no problem with some sort of registration or licensing but if some people won't even chip their dogs, they're not going to pay for that.

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The rules should be - unchipped dog found and destroyed.

potniatheron · 01/02/2023 16:46

aintnothinbutagstring · 01/02/2023 16:39

It's not just a certain type of dog that always seem to be involved in these incidents, it's a certain type of person/family in certain neighbourhoods that see these dogs as status symbols - and they put that above the safety of their own children - very sad to show such little protective instinct.

It is certainly a fact that dangerous dog attacks happen more frequently in lower socio economic areas. I wasn't actually aware of this until I read a few of the media reports on this tragic incident and several journalists pointed out this research.

Netaporter · 01/02/2023 16:47

I get no pleasure from seeing it is in fact an American Bully. Absolutely no way this dog was ‘rescued’ by any reputable organisation. When this is investigated, mark my words, money will have changed hands.

A senseless, avoidable tragedy. RIP to the little one. If the parents are not prosecuted after this, sadly we will read of such incidents in the future.

I don’t know if anyone read the recent thread (last 6 months or so) about the poster whose DP had brought such a dog into the house and then fucked off leaving her terrified to go into her own kitchen for almost two weeks. She also had kids. She absolutely didn’t know to ring the police to get it gone. It really beggars belief that there are mothers who don’t put the kids first over a random dog they don’t know and didn’t want.

I love my dog but since he was a puppy we have been very careful to ensure that he understands his place in our house is at the bottom of the pack.

Whitney168 · 01/02/2023 16:47

Octopusmittens · 01/02/2023 16:20

Why on earth would anyone ‘rehome’ an American Bulldog in a house with a small child. It defies belief. People should be held accountable.

You truly can't legislate against this level of stupid.

They do seem to be saying the dog came from a rescue centre too, rather than bought from a private seller. IF that is the case, it doesn't seem a reputable one, and perhaps they should also be facing prosecution.

Poor child, let down badly by the adults around her.

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 16:48

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 16:45

The rules should be - unchipped dog found and destroyed.

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Why should the dog pay with it's life because it is not chipped?
Sometimes, the chips no longer work, or they move. My vet scanned my dog and could not find her chip. It is now in her notes that it has migrated to the front of her chest.
Under your rule, had she been picked up and scanned, she would have been destroyed.

Unphased · 01/02/2023 16:49

At least the police are reporting it for what it is A Tragic isolated incident

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 16:50

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 16:48

Why should the dog pay with it's life because it is not chipped?
Sometimes, the chips no longer work, or they move. My vet scanned my dog and could not find her chip. It is now in her notes that it has migrated to the front of her chest.
Under your rule, had she been picked up and scanned, she would have been destroyed.

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Yes.

If you didn't want your dog destroyed, you'd have to make sure your dog wasn't loose, wouldn't you.

Hoppinggreen · 01/02/2023 16:51

Whitney168 · 01/02/2023 16:47

You truly can't legislate against this level of stupid.

They do seem to be saying the dog came from a rescue centre too, rather than bought from a private seller. IF that is the case, it doesn't seem a reputable one, and perhaps they should also be facing prosecution.

Poor child, let down badly by the adults around her.

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I have done rehoming checks for several dog charities and NO proper charity would rehome to a situation like that

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 16:54

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 16:50

Yes.

If you didn't want your dog destroyed, you'd have to make sure your dog wasn't loose, wouldn't you.

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Of course, but sometimes things happen that mean a dog is loose. I have had to let her loose when 2 dogs were trying to get at her, and their owner would not call them off. She ran off and took herself home!

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 16:56

So your dog was completely out of your control in a public place. That's completely unacceptable and irresponsible behaviour. What if your fearful, agitated dog had attacked a child on the way home?

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 17:00

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 16:56

So your dog was completely out of your control in a public place. That's completely unacceptable and irresponsible behaviour. What if your fearful, agitated dog had attacked a child on the way home?

Nice how you blame me for my scared dog who was trying to escape the two massively out of control dogs that were trying to attack her.

Should I have kept her on her lead and let her get ripped to shreds? I have had that happen before with another dog... she did get injured but manage to get away and also took herself home.

Ricco12 · 01/02/2023 17:04

HisRoyalWhineness · 01/02/2023 12:05

And all this lumping together of staffies and XL bullies as ''bull'' breeds. Yes, perhaps genetically speaking, but have you ever seen them in person comparatively? Huge difference. Again, lazy, lazy comparison.

Exactly

Boston terrier are part of the bull breed family up to Great Dane

I doubt people would be calling for a ban on Boston terriers .

watchfulwishes · 01/02/2023 17:06

Whitney168 · 01/02/2023 16:47

You truly can't legislate against this level of stupid.

They do seem to be saying the dog came from a rescue centre too, rather than bought from a private seller. IF that is the case, it doesn't seem a reputable one, and perhaps they should also be facing prosecution.

Poor child, let down badly by the adults around her.

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Rescue centres should have more ongoing liability IMO, too many problem dogs are rehomed. It is completely irresponsible at times.

bluebellaa · 01/02/2023 17:07

I take my 9 month old daughter swimming, run by an established infant swimming company but who rent the pool at a private residence.

The other week I was carrying my daughter in her car seat towards the pool building when the owner's dog came bounding out of the house towards us barking, circling us and trying to get to my daughter. The owner remarked how the dog "loved seeing all the babies" but this dog's behaviour showed no affection and was instead stand offish and territorial.

I will never understand dog owners who don't A) have any regard for how their dog's behaviour might intimidate strangers, or B) consider that there is always a freak chance something about a particular circumstance/person could make them react in an uncharacteristic manner.

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 17:14

I will never understand dog owners who don't A) have any regard for how their dog's behaviour might intimidate strangers, or B) consider that there is always a freak chance something about a particular circumstance/person could make them react in an uncharacteristic manner.

It's like Homer's pet lobster. He sees a cute adorable pet. Everybody else sees a snappy, dangerous animal.

Polkadotties · 01/02/2023 17:19

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 16:56

So your dog was completely out of your control in a public place. That's completely unacceptable and irresponsible behaviour. What if your fearful, agitated dog had attacked a child on the way home?

Stop being a goady fuck Hmm

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 17:22

Polkadotties · 01/02/2023 17:19

Stop being a goady fuck Hmm

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goady...

Cileymyrus · 01/02/2023 17:27

Ricco12 · 01/02/2023 17:04

Exactly

Boston terrier are part of the bull breed family up to Great Dane

I doubt people would be calling for a ban on Boston terriers .

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Actually, I think anything brachycephalic should be banned or have severe breeding restrictions imposed.

but not for the reasons on this thread.

WFHbore2023 · 01/02/2023 17:27

goady...

Shares clip that has no relevance to the situation the OP found herself in

LadyMary50 · 01/02/2023 17:32

FrancescaContini · 01/02/2023 08:27

You mentioned the child almost as an afterthought.

Who cares about the dog owner or the dog? Hopefully he’ll go to prison and the dog will be shot.

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The dog has been PD,and the owner was a woman.The attack happened in their back garden.

XenoBitch · 01/02/2023 17:33

watchfulwishes · 01/02/2023 17:06

Rescue centres should have more ongoing liability IMO, too many problem dogs are rehomed. It is completely irresponsible at times.

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People regularly complain that rescue centres are too strict (not rehoming to homes with small children is something people regularly complain about), but those rules are in place for a reason. Good rescues exist to provide homes for dogs, not provide dogs for homes.

ThisGirlNever · 01/02/2023 17:33

WFHbore2023 · 01/02/2023 17:27

goady...

Shares clip that has no relevance to the situation the OP found herself in

Dogs roaming the streets are not relevant to dogs roaming the streets.

OK. I think I've got it.

WFHbore2023 · 01/02/2023 17:40

*Dogs roaming the streets are not relevant to dogs roaming the streets.

OK. I think I've got it.*

The dogs in the clip were vicious dogs, that repeatedly escape, and have repeatedly attacked. They weren't scared dogs desperately trying to get away from a dangerous situation.

I'm not sure what the guidance is if you are attacked by other dogs, but I know that the rule of thumb if chased by cows is to drop your dogs lead. Is that compatible to your little clip too?

I'm sure if her dog had the same temperament she wouldn't have been so chill about her walking herself home, or actually need to let her loose when being attacked for that matter.

LadyMary50 · 01/02/2023 17:41

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 01/02/2023 09:45

I don’t quite know how to say this nicer but
errr

fuck off.

SOME people shouldn’t have pets. That’s nothing to do with their housing situation. Some of the worst behaved dogs I’ve seen are pooches in owned houses. Yes they aren’t going to kill a child, but an owned home means nothing to responsible ownership.

have a look at some of the work done by street dog and DOTs to re-educate yourself about owners and dogs.

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I second your comment.Snobs like this poster can indeed “fuck off”😏

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