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some teens are perfect?

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carnation459 · 28/01/2023 09:22

out for a drink with friends last night.
I mentioned in passing that my 12 year old seems to be going through some stuff which is tricky, here come the teen hormones etc and friend said:

"oh mine was delightful. All the way through she was nothing but lovely and never gave me a single problem".

I mean, I guess this is possible.
It wasn't the most supportive comment on the heels of my needing a little supportive nod perhaps.
Surely pre teen/teenage girls (and boys) all have their moments? Don't they? Is it possible to go right the way through with no drama, no pushback against parents, no arguments, no rebellion?

OP posts:
Phewthatwasclose · 28/01/2023 14:40

familyissues12345 · 28/01/2023 09:37

My eldest was a nightmare child up until 12, but has been a delightful teenager. I feel so lucky with him, so there are some nice ones out there.

Youngest is only 14 so still time for him to rebel, I'd be amazed though as it would be incredibly out of nature for him (he hates being in trouble) but who knows what will happen over the next few years...

Currently touching wood... Grin

Family, that's really interesting - did it just happen naturally or did you start to do anything different (e.g. become stricter, or more easy going, more emphatetic?)

Asking for a friend! 😉

Oblomov22 · 28/01/2023 14:45

Maybe her comment wasn't helpful. But for some children it's true. Ds1 nearly broke me, but many of his friends sailed through, have everything going for them: naice families, very good looking, very bright, sporty, friends, no esteem issues, girlfriend, own car, off to uni with no problems. Even for me ds2 is such an easy child, compared to all his peers - am close friends with 4 mums. How can I explain that? I am forced to play him down / never mention how easy he is. Not always, admittedly, he got told off by Dh for being sarky over too much x box playing, but generally he's not difficult.

ghostofchristmasfuture · 28/01/2023 14:50

From a developmental perspective I don't think 'perfect teens' are such a great thing. I knew lots of girls who strove to be perfect when we were young, lots of them had eating disorders etc, and now in our forties several suffer from serious anxiety and depression. It's normal for teenagers to be difficult and a bit rebellious. It's part of our development to separate ourselves from our parents.

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ItWasntMyFault · 28/01/2023 14:58

Dd never caused me any grief during her teenage years, she was always been a very easy child to parent, I think a lot of this is because she's an introvert, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke etc

Ds on the other hand is a bit of party animal, drinks, smokes and has also tried weed a few times that I know of. He is generally a decent young man but has definitely had his fair share of issues (and his sisters share as well).

Deathraystare · 28/01/2023 14:58

When Mum was still alive she one day made out she had had problems with us three. I then mentioned we never smoked, drank to excess, stayed out all night, got pregnant/got someone else pregnant, took drugs - so what was the problem? She had to admit there wasn't one!!!

I had a temper and would stamp to my room and slam the door but that was as bad as it got.

AnnieFarmer · 28/01/2023 14:59

More competitor than friend by the sound of it. Maybe on the whole those teenage years were pretty calm and she’s forgotten the odd time when there was friction. Maybe she was a controlling mother. You’d only ever know the truth if her daughter chose to tell you.

DinaofCloud9 · 28/01/2023 15:04

Mojoj · 28/01/2023 14:26

I'll take my feisty, opinionated, passionate, occasionally cheeky but always entertaining teen over a compliant wee people pleaser any day of the week

Why are easy going teens suddenly people pleasers?

Liorae · 28/01/2023 15:09

Because some people don't understand that kids live up to expectations.

MissWings · 28/01/2023 15:09

@DinaofCloud9

Because it’s mumsnet. It’s all black and white here. You’re either one of the other. It’s all a bit boring I must admit.

neverendinglauaundry · 28/01/2023 15:10

Some are more difficult than others. Bear in mind, too, that confidentiality is more of a thing with teens. I share less about problems with my teens because I know they'd be mortified if I discussed certain things with my friends. That can make things feel more isolated.

Sportswomansrest72 · 28/01/2023 15:14

Well just as there are “perfect” babies who eat and sleep well, and amenable toddlers who don’t have tantrums, there are teens who don’t find the transition from childhood to adulthood particularly taxing. But there are also babies who never sleep, toddlers who tantrum for Britain, and teens for whom adolescence is full of emotional highs and lows. It’s hardly surprising that all teens are different is it?

However op, I do think that, whereas it is socially acceptable to have a bit of a moan about the challenges of caring for babies and infants, parents are far more reluctant to be open about parenting teens:

(1) because they are protecting the privacy and confidence of their older child, particularly if teens and parents circulate in vaguely the same social circle,

(2) parents feel that if teens are going off the rails then they are more culpable because they have been parenting a teen for longer than a baby or toddler, so they feel guilty,

(3) rebelling teens are usually questioning or challenging many things their parents stand for, which can feel like a huge rejection to a parent who is trying their best, so it’s painful to talk about

(4) there is a ridiculous middle class competitiveness among many parents about where their teen is attending university or what long haul volunteering opportunities or intern placements have been secured for them, so parents are wary of speaking up when their teen is taking a “different path”.

In other words op, you are not alone, many (but not all) parents do encounter difficulties with their teens but quite a few choose not to talk about it.

Btw, imho your friend is neither tactful
or a good listener!

SusanPerbCallMeSue · 28/01/2023 15:16

Mine have never caused me terrible worry. They aren't perfect though, because no one is. I've still had arguments with them over mess, showering, school work. Just no bigger problems like drugs, alcohol etc.

That could be because they're unsociable buggers like me though!

So if I was talking to someone, I'd say they were no trouble, because day to day they're not. But they're still pains in the arse sometimes.

IfOnlyTheyMeantIt · 28/01/2023 15:16

Single mum here to two teens, nearly 19 and nearly 17.

They've both been super easy children, tweens and teens. Respectful, well mannered, good fun etc. I have a great relationship with both of them.

But I still wouldn't have said that to you if you'd just told me you were struggling g. I'd have just sympathised and kept my mouth shut!!

Comedycook · 28/01/2023 15:20

I remember a thread on here ages ago where a poster said she had raised three boys to adulthood and never experienced a single moment of stroppiness. I have a 14 year old Ds, I'm lucky to go ten minutes without stroppiness!

Zipps · 28/01/2023 15:36

Our eldest was a teenager who pushed all the boundaries and some. Rebellious at school, wouldn't accept advice. Also had loads of drive and ambition and never gets pushed around by anyone. Only says yes if she means it . By their late 20's they had their own successful business, a partner, a baby and a five bedroom house in a great area. Travels loads and has a lovely lifestyle.

Dc 2 not a minutes trouble that we know of, no hassle at school (at uni now doing finance) is laid back, quiet, passive and dreamy. Quite frankly I worry more about this one. A bit lazy and needs to be pointed and cajoled into anything like driving lessons/thinking about career. Everything is I'll do it tomorrow. It's hard work just getting an opinion on something. Her responses "don't mind, don't care, whatever" all very politely said but unhelpful.

Ohgoodyanotherone · 28/01/2023 15:51

Nobody, teen or otherwise, is perfect, but DD was no bother at all during her teen years.

Ohgoodyanotherone · 28/01/2023 15:57

Posted without finishing

I would never say to anyone that was struggling with their own teens or worried about what the teen years would bring, how easy I had it with DD. I'm aware that not everybody, no matter how good a parent they are, will be as fortunate as I was.

UsingChangeofName · 28/01/2023 16:17

As others have said, it wasn't the right thing to say at the time, when a little empathy wouldn't have gone amiss, but of course there are lots of teens that don't cause angst. In the same way that there are some babies that sleep through the night, and some toddlers that don't have tantrums and some dc that eat everything put in front of them. All dc are different.

Plus, we as parents have different levels of what might be "a problem".

I've seen threads on here where parents have thought they'd spawned the devil's child when they had messy rooms. Mine all had stages of living in a pigsty, but I wouldn't say that "caused me a problem". It was their room, their mess, and a normal stage for a teen to go through.
I've seen threads where parents are upset because their teen doesn't want to come on family days out, or doesn't want to shop with them. Again, some people think that is "a problem" but many of us don't.

PrincessPaloma · 28/01/2023 17:55

Ohgoodyanotherone · 28/01/2023 15:51

Nobody, teen or otherwise, is perfect, but DD was no bother at all during her teen years.

HOW is that helpful? 🤦🏻‍♀️

familyissues12345 · 28/01/2023 21:24

@Phewthatwasclose

We think there was a couple of reasons. He got a lovely group of mates in secondary school and that seemed to be his turning point. Not that he didn't have lovely friends in primary, his secondary ones just seemed particularly great!

I think also as his behaviour was much better, it made us calmer better parents, so we started working better as a team than us against him IYSWIM ?

28January · 29/01/2023 08:38

I love the way people here sneer at well behaved teens assuming they will end up in a mess later (because of course they must be repressed) or assume that if you think your teen is well behaved you are being an ostrich. Strangely enough some kids can be funny, intelligent, good company and entertaining all through their teenage years and turn into well adjusted adults. If that’s not your teen sorry, but it doesn’t mean it wasn’t mine (and actually your feisty kid with a “personality” that you dote on so much is usually a total pita).

dew141 · 29/01/2023 08:41

I also wouldn't have said that to you.

My older son is so easy, he's organised, thoughtful and caring. So I'd be your friend. Except I had another and he most certainly is not. Stroppy, disorganised and quite self-centred. Most days have at least one fairly big argument. So no preaching from me!

sacremerde · 29/01/2023 08:54

I don't have teens so can't speak to much of this but christ you don't half sound competitive @28January. I thought the baby years were annoying enough for competitive parents and was breathing a sign of inward relief as we've reached the saner primary years.

I don't know if it was meant that way but the tone of your post is so bitchy and mean!

MissWings · 29/01/2023 08:54

@28January

Yep. I was a good kid and a good teen. Well adjusted adult and get on with my siblings and parents very well.

Mumsnet is very black and white. You’re either a demon child who’s feisty and going to change the world or a complete an utter door mat who is repressed. Never any shade of grey on here.

For what it’s worth I think parenting practices have improved over the years so what was normal a few decades ago in terms of adolescent rebellion, a lot of teens are just bumbling on okay!! They’re not all self harming nightmares to live with.

lljkk · 29/01/2023 11:42

I've had 4 teens; current edition is a dream. Super nice person.
That said, of course we don't always agree. He's still a person with own views & lapses of judgement. He's no more perfect than any adult.