Ioan Gruffudd/Alice Evans

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Don’t know if anyone has followed this, but she had an arrest warrant issued today for failing to appear in court for breaching a restraining order he has for domestic abuse. Their poor children seem like an afterthought.

@Habber you're spot on there

To be fair he's tried to do the first two, he's doing a forced sale. Why he bought the house and both of them thought they could live it up In LA on a z lister budget is another story. I do wonder if the being offered no work might be a slight embellishment so he doesn't have to pay as much. Why hire Brad Pitt's divorce lawyer if you don't have Brad's money ? Who knows.

He would have known Alice was a mess when the kids were young she's been arguing on twitter for years and causing drama. He decided to work away instead of selling up and moving home to cheaper accomodation and more steady work then left the kids with an unhinged primary parent for months on end. (He met Bianca on location). So he was shagging while he left his kids with a horrible person. She had plenty of time to work in the parental alienation. Both of them seem to be idiots with money.

If he did earn 5 million dollars for fantastic 4 why didn't he pay the mortgage off ? Instead it's in arrears and they both have trashed credit ratings.

No, exactly. He hasn't. But LoekMa, who I was replying to, said he had.
He needs to take as long as it takes to recover his mental health,
My conversation was with them about his supposed mental health problem. I hope that explains it.

What more do you want me to say about Alice Evans? I've said she's beyond batshit crazy. How can I make my feelings clearer? But she's not going to change. It's who she is. She's not going to start behaving reasonable because in her anger withl IG, she's lost the plot. She needs to face her financial situation, sell the house, get a job and share custody. She's not going to do that off her own bat. What's left to say?

But IG isn't crazy, he hasn't lost the plot. He knows what the problems are. He knows he has no money. He's filed a public document that he has no money and he has to take handouts from his girlfriend. And on here I read he's taken handouts from his parents. Which apparently is preferable to him than getting up and going doing a regular job. Ugh.

He's also said in public documents that AE has a problem with alcohol, prescription medication, anger problems. That she neglected their children's welfare and education. That she was verbally and physically abusive in front of the children. That she has alienated the children from him. And yet he doesn't go for 100% custody? Who would let their partner have 50% custody when they behaved like that?

From the outside, he’s letting Alice lose custody at her own hand. He doesn’t have to take it from her what she will lose of her own accord. His kids would never forgive him if he went to war, they love her, even though it’s unhealthy and damaging what she’s doing, she is their mother. For all Alice’s faults in this I still don’t think any parent really deserves to lose their kids but there has to be a line, if they continually show they do not have the DC best interests, Alice still claims she does, in a very warped and grim way I just don’t think she is capable of putting them first emotionally anymore but she’s not able to see that. I do not hate this woman, I would love to see her sort her life out for the sake of her kids and herself, it’s so horrible watching what she’s doing.

Ioan can afford a small apartment, smaller bills and some child support now, maybe things will change in the future but this is now - she has to see it can’t carry on. All she is doing is losing. He earns $30k PA in residuals for doing nothing, that’s what some people earn for a 40 hour week, this is just real life not Hollywood expectations. What is the shame in being skint? Most people are. We have to all manage but don’t have $2 million dollar houses hanging round our neck strangling us

Perhaps BW is independently wealthy and wants to support him financially so he can focus on the court proceedings? We don't know what their agreement is, it's their business.

She's from a wealthy family. But I'm sure they would rather not spend their wealth propping up their daughters 50 something active boyfriend.

*actor not active

Maybe, but that's their business isn't it? They are not obliged to do it. The point is, we don't know. Being supported financially by your partner is not a crime.

What we do know, is that AE has behaved in a way that persuaded a court to grant a restraining order against her, that she was arrested for alleged breaches of that order and then failed to appear in court resulting in a warrant being issued for her arrest. Those are facts.

Yeah she sucks as well.

What is the shame in being skint? Most people are.

There's no shame in being skint. There is shame in not doing something about it. He's had a year when, according to him, he's done hardly anything. He could have made a few thousand in that time.

If your husband lost his job, would you want him to hang around the house, waiting for a job opportunity, bumming a few quid off you? Or would you want him to go find a job that paid some money and contribute to the family finances?

@MarshaMelrose I'm not sure why you keep focusing on Ioan and not Alice here regarding work. You seem to add on her name at the end as an afterthought

Your last post could absolutely be written more for Alice than Ioan

He has worked in the last year, he has contributed but it leaves him with nothing in the bank, relying on his girlfriend and family for support

If Alice allowed the sale of the house when he first wanted it, didn't enrol their eldest in such an expensive school as he attested and got out and worked herself then they would both be much better off. She's the one blocking them from moving out of their financial hole.

I'm guessing he's purposely trying to push his income down in anticipation of the court decision about maintenance.

A perfect time to look skint.

I don’t get this. So you think he purposefully earned zilch, put himself into debt and destroyed his career to get away from his ex who he was divorcing? She’s the one who’s stalled the sale of the marital home. Her biggest acting role was 102 Dalmatians, the 1 mil she was looking at from the sale of the house was a decent settlement. Now she’s bled him dry and will get nothing other than a criminal record. And their kids are watching and living through this.

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I have no idea I'm just speculating like everyone else. But it's common for people divorcing to fudge their income and assets. He could be deliberately signing up for projects where he gets paid after the divorce settlement. He could be negotiating contracts with delayed payments. He could be turning down projects where he would make the kind of money he made previously.

Because if he's the moneybags breadwinner spouse and she's been the SAHP (whether she was good at it is another thing) then he's making bucketloads and her earning potential is zilch and there would be a strong argument that he should pay to support her in the longer term, whether that is spousal maintenance or child maintenance.

But if she's broke and he's broke and the only real asset is the house then obviously he can get that sold and have a clean break financially from her.

Why did he hire Brad pitt's divorce attorney to fight over ... no assets or income. If youre actually broke then why hire an expensive lawyer? To fight over your percentage of nothing? Custody isn't that complex and lawyers who work for everyday people are equally adept at it. you don't need the most expensive lawyer for that. The expensive lawyers are the ones with experience fighting over large asset pools- that's why they make the big dollars.

Again, wildly speculative but I think Brad Pitts lawyer would have told him it's a good time to lie low professionally- look like his income is limited and therefore it's unreasonable for her to stake a claim on it, get a clean break of the house and then he's off the hook for supporting her.

I guess we'll see if his career suddenly picks up the day after the divorce is finalised.

She wanted a divorce well before he walked. She was forever putting him down on SM, and she cheated on him with a co-star from Vampire Diaries. She’s a spoilt, entitled woman who has got by on the looks she used to have. I felt sorry for her until I read into it. She should be reaping what she has sown but she’ll wriggle out of it like she always does. And I think she’s actively trying to lose custody of those beautiful children now she has to look after them rather than having a nanny and a maid. Get a job, Alice!

She hasn’t, she’s been using her sock accounts on Twitter and in the DM comments. Sincerely hoping some of the nasty stuff she’s been behind on Twitter is traced back to her because it’s evil and unhinged.

Well said.

Middle age is a difficult time for women. Pregnancies cause all sorts of physical damage and disfigurement. Menopause is a bitch. Many women struggle to control their weight and they lose their looks. It’s hard when you’ve been pretty and you’re not any more. Especially when your husband (like all men) has no repercussions from pregnancy, no menopause, no struggles or changes whatsoever really. And while you look worse and worse, he looks just as good or possibly even better. You feel jealous, angry and resentful.

It’s clear that Alice was angry with Ioan for years before they split. Certainly he was getting work and being patted on the back for looking great whereas she wasn’t. And she definitely had insecurities and body struggles from ageing whereas he remained fit and looking great. He was still a star while she had become invisible and nothing but a mother. Him leaving for a younger childless woman has undoubtedly reinforced those issues. Not excusing her behaviour, it has been dreadful. But I can understand the source of the pain and anger.

Why won't she do anything about it though? Imagine having a full time nanny at home while BOTH your kids are in school, instead of spending hours and hours being pen pals to weirdos on twitter, go for a swim in that murky pool she used to post

Also this weight gain is recent. After the kids, she was still very skinny for a long time. It isnt as if she ballooned overnight due to pregnancy. Its to due sedentary lifestyle, which - I repeat- was spent PICKING FIGHTS ON TWITTER. In your Mid FIFTIES for heavens sake.

They say "you get the face you deserve at 50" , guess all that bitterness in her heart finally caught up with her exterior.

PS I do agree however, that bravado aside, this is why she is so livid at Ioan leaving. She will never ever pull a man of his calibre again, looking the way she does.

I’m going through menopause myself because of a full hysterectomy due to cervical cancer and you’re right, it sucks. Saying that though I think Alice looked amazing up until lockdown, and then by her own admission gained weight and the divorce has compounded this. However, none of this excuses her behaviour over the last two years. As I said I was right behind her until I read into it. I questioned her once over a discrepancy in her narrative-big mistake. I was insulted by her on Twitter and via her obvious sock accounts privately plus her FMs hounded me with vile DMs and stalked my SM to the point I had to shut them down. She and they aren’t right in the head. I hope it’s discovered for definite she’s using her brother’s Twitter(she quite obviously is)because threats to kill , whether veiled or otherwise, are a criminal offence. Her husband leaving her does not excuse this. Her latest example of this is doxxing a man and one of her FMs saying someone should break his baby’s legs. Did she actively do anything about this, block her FM? No, of course she didn’t . Disgusting.

Sedentary lifestyle can have numerous causes. You don’t know what health issues she might have. Menopause is dreadful, exhausted due to no sleep, personally I can hardly move because of pains, even had to give up playing my violin because my hands hurt too much. Not surprising that women feel unable to exercise.

I agree she won’t be able to replace him, if she has a lot of difficulties she might not be able to get another relationship at all. I certainly can’t, too much birth injuries and fucked over by menopause, nobody will want me!

She had enough energy to continuously disparage his new partner, sending him numerous Emails about how he would have to push her in a Wheelchair to auditions because she has MS, a real actual diesease.

What a downright sick sick woman.

Honestly, I'm not impressed with either of them.

I've said that Evans is batshit crazy. She's going to burn as much down as she can just to destroy him. She hates him more than she loves her children. What else do you want mevtonsay about her? She should get a job? I've said multiple times she needs to get a job because she cant afford not to. But she won't.

Why shouldn't I speak about Gruffudd? You might think he's a poor, hapless, good guy. I don't. According to him, he's had one presenting job that lasted a couple of weeks in 2022. That left him 50 weeks to work at something else. Did he work at something else? No. Did he use that opportunity to earn a few thousand? No. Instead at 50 he has to rely on his 30yo girlfriend and his elderly parents. Why anyone thinks that is something admirable, I really don't know. Evans is blocking the move but that doesnt negate his responsibility to pay his own way.

How anyone can defend either of this pair is beyond me.

No, it’s that you are adding on Alice’s foibles and flaws as an afterthought and side note, your main focus is Ioan earning money. Why should he be the only person earning money and paying for this house while she refuses to sell it? He’s already said he’s happy to show the court how many auditions he’s had and all the attempts at work, he has an agent, to whom he has to pay fees, he also has to pay taxes on all his earnings which has helped wipe him out. He is having to borrow to pay the mortgage as it’s far more than he can afford. So your answer to this is… to just go earn that on his own? Why should he? Because he is a man?

We are in a recession. There is a cost of living crisis. Downsizing according to your income is normal and sensible. Alice has now wasted hundreds of thousands of their income. Actors know they have to sometimes make their income stretch out, because even if they sign up to a project, it could fall through, something can go wrong, it can get delayed.

Alice has nothing wrong with her apart from this thing about being on twitter, fighting with people and lying in bed. She rarely goes out and is sometimes very obviously intoxicated online. Menopause is no excuse for her behaviour and never will be. She is abusive and always has been

He is only using ‘Brad Pitt’s lawyer’ as he had to find a new one when things turned very difficult with Alice. He did not want this, and tried to have a collaborative low key divorce in 2021. His lawyer will be paid for with his own share of the house.

So let’s sum this up, make DV victims
-should earn everything to pay all bills entirely, and females get a pass for being fat/old and menopausal
-should be ashamed if they can’t find work or pay their bills whilst women stay home doing nothing
-should have a shit cheap lawyer and don’t deserve a good one

Regarding the Lawyer, I know she has a retainer, but I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if she / her team reached out to him, kind of how that one famous lawyer Lisa Bloom is often linked to high profile cases.

Not saying Ioan is high profile, but cases like These, where women display quasi Betty Broderick levels of insanity - they bring notoriety and I would not be surprised if their divorce settlement ends up setting a precedent, due to her complete disregard of the legal system.