Yet another person killed from a dog attack.. what is going on

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-64254413

Something needs to be done...reports of dog neglect taken more seriously, harsher prison sentences... any other ideas?

Awful, awful way to die, and makes me think twice about passing dogs off lead on walks.

Chicks or cygnets are still the young regardless of what you call them. Maybe you had a off day ok please think in future.

Wow 😂

Swans, geese, ducks, it doesn't matter what type of fowl it is if you see any sort of waterfowl on a pond you don't let your dog in the water.

Would you let your dog go into a field of sheep because the field was huge and the sheep are over the other side? It's the same thing.

Swans are great big meanies, but it the dog was 100 yards away from them they are unlikely to have regarded her as a threat.

What they may well have seen is @SinnerBoy looking like someone who may have had a pocket full of bread, come over for that and then regarded thedog as a bread their - they'll protect any food assets. That's why they drown ducklings - in great big meanie style. Ducks, geese and swans compete for the same resources.

It is the way of the wild, I'm afraid.

*bread thief, not bread their

Carroting away and it's only January.

*pigsDOfly

Would you let your dog go into a field of sheep because the field was huge and the sheep are over the other side? It's the same thing.

Don't be silly. She was hardly going to swim all the way over and have at them.

How do you know that?

It's distressing for the birds, especially if they have young.

I live in an area with several lakes and ponds with various waterfowl in them and every single one of them has signs saying dog must be kept on a lead around the pond/lake and dog must not be allowed in the water.

But clearly you think you know better than the people who manage the waterways and waterfowl.

It's distressing for the birds, especially if they have young.

They didn't, as I've already said.

I live in an area with several lakes and ponds with various waterfowl in them and every single one of them has signs saying dog must be kept on a lead around the pond/lake and dog must not be allowed in the water.

There were no such signs. If there had have been, she'd have been on the lead.

CYGNETS ARE YOUNG!!!

BBC News - increase in numbers of "extreme" dog breeds.

I turned on at about 8.15, but not sure when this section started. Some very worrying stuff - for both animal and for people.

"Dogs, Dealers and Organised Crime" - Panorama tonight at 8.00pm

Thanks for the info. I'll try and watch that.

I have noticed an increase in this type of dog recently however it occurs to me that it's a bit like putting a sticker on your back saying 'I'm a dodgy person probably a drug dealer' ?
I've noticed certain types of dogs tend to be walked at night under cover of darkness, but again all you need to do to find out who's dodgy is spot the people who are out walking very terrifying looking dogs at night....no?

Some those poor animals are so inbred they can barely walk - if you were in constant pain would not make you bad-tempered? The OCGs are inviolvedpart,y because these dogs can change hans for up to 10 grand!

(Also they look bliddy fierce - puts people off challenging them)

Apologies for typos

Inside the world of organised crime and extreme dog breeding

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64346415

Did anyone else watch the Panorama program?
I had tears in my eyes listening to that poor little boys Mum-just heartbreaking.
Its also opened my eyes into this dog breeding world, it really is a big business. That poor dog in the kennel at the beginning with his feet turned inwards- just shocking.

I did - and like you my heart ached for that poor woman, and the thought of what her poor little boy had suffered. She was very brave to speak about it - I don't know if I could. She could hardly talk - it was harrowing

And I know it's not on the same scale, but it ached for those poor mis-shapen dogs, too.

Its so obvious that these animals are dangerous though (especially the "XL bullies") that I don't know why even owning one isn't a criminal offence punishable with prison. That CCTV of the dog attacking a child going past was chilling- that was a fit young man holding the lead, and he could barely keep the dog back- and punching the animal just makes it more aggressive.

These are not pets, and most of them lead lives of misery. They are owned and brutalised by the worst type of thug. They are a danger to anyone and everyone - it's just a hideous trade - but such an easy money-laundering opportunity

Interesting watch on Panorama last night, the crossover of drug dealers and dog breeding, the big bull type dogs, apart from it being bloody sad, ear cropping, teaching them violence etc... the money to be made is immense. These aren't small backstreet breeders, they are massive organisations, run by violent criminals.
How the hell do the rspca know all this, including video evidence, but allow it to go on, its disgusting.
There is the mother of the 11 year old boy who got killed last year on there, so heartbreaking.

I'd be interested to know if those posters advocating dog licences/dogs needing to be on leads at all times in order to help stop dog attacks really image that the sort of dog owners featured in the above mentioned panorama programme would be rushing out to get their dog licences?

Personally, I rather doubt it.

does that mean we should let them just crack on with it??
I think it would be helpful to publicly draw a very clear distinction between normal pet dogs and these weaponised canine predators

I just read about a baby who was killed by dachshund terrier cross in her own home. No muzzle, lead or license would have prevented that.

"I'd be interested to know if those posters advocating dog licences/dogs needing to be on leads at all times in order to help stop dog attacks really image that the sort of dog owners featured in the above mentioned panorama programme would be rushing out to get their dog licences?

Personally, I rather doubt it."

I agree, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't hold many many benefits. There will always be people who don't follow 'rules' but by definition this makes them more easy to spot, and prosecute.

I don't really understand what you mean by 'let them just crack on with it'

My point is that a licence isn't going to work with owners like that. Not that we should just let them carry on regardless.

Ridiculous to imagine that's what I meant.

Exactly why muzzles, leads, and licences wouldn't work. The majority of dog attacks happen in the home.