Infuriated at lack of good female role models for children

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The likes of Kim K and Cardi B are DISGUSTING! Cardi B admitted to robbing/drugging men, there are naked photos of her on the internet and her raps are vulgar and talentless. Kim K got famous off a sex tape that is still online and shows off her excessive consumption. She also encourages impressionable women to feel bad about their bodies by lying about their own surgeries!

When i was a teen, I wish I heard about Ruth Bader Ginsberg instead of these 2 clowns

Also the Kardashian family I'd rather large so assume THATS why their following is so great....all their individual followers will then go on to follow other family members as well

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Many aspects of rap culture are deeply violent, and sexist and encourage antisocial behaviour such as taking drugs, getting into fights etc.
Haven't you heard of the violence associated with drill music in the UK?
I consider it a betrayal of your own gender if you enter into such an industry and fail to challenge these violent, sexist tropes.
Also, cardi b robbed her clients and there are photos of her naked body online. What kind of role model is that?
Kim K got famous by taking off her clothes and participating in a sex tape. Her show also encourages mindless consumerism and pollution.

Kim K has more followers by herself than Greta T or Emma R unfortunately

kartrashians - very classy

They produce nothing but trash-- both literally and metaphorically

in your mind, but a lot of people (not me) like them/follow them/buy whatever shit they are trying to sell

hence why they are negative role models
if there nobody followed them or bought their shit, they wouldn't be role models, positive or negative
people like them are ridiculously overexposed. Why haven't people like RBG or Greta T git the same exposure ?

This. Viewed positively, Cardi B is an incredible example of musicality, genre-busting confidence, being self-made and being an entrepreneur, as is Kim K. You sound so hate-filled in your post. Is it because these women lead with sexuality that bothers you so much?

i agree with you on the role model aspect, i just dont like the name calling

Greta T gets loads of exposure, didn’t you see her altercation with Tate the other day?

My children would have no interest in Kim K and only know of Cardi because of one of her songs (I Like It, which is a brilliant song). I wouldn’t let them absorb too much else because it’s not age appropriate.

Where are you from op?

They are encouraging young impressionable women to think that being physically appealing to the male gaze is all that matters. What about helping other people through your intellect (RBG), courage (Malala) or physically pushing boundaries of your field ( top female athletes, top mathematicians, top academics, top musicians).
But what distinguished Cardi B et al. is that they pander to the male gaze through dangerous physical surgeries, derogatory comments about their own bodies and other women's (WAP) and generally dangerous behaviour ( becoming a stripper is dangerous, exposing yourself online via a sex tape is dangerous). Cardi b at the end of the day is no different from the worst rappers in the industry. But instead of just exploiting other women, Cardi B is also exploiting herself. Also, did you not hear about her admitting to robbing her clients whilst being a stripper?
Would you like your daughters or sisters to grow up and release sex tapes, work as strippers and undergo dangerous surgery to pander to the male gaze?

There are bad female role models I agree, however far more bad male role models. For every Marcus Rashford there are 100 bad male role models.

One of them was Prime Minister until last July.

London, where a great deal of my peers are exposed to violent, sexist rap music

So? At least men are encouraged to be strong and powerful. How many women get into the highest positions of power in the UK? Liz Truss was not a strong or powerful woman-- she was set up to fail.
Kim K is famous bc of her big ass and sex tape-- she is not admired for her strength or power.
However, there are many male public figures who are famous for something besides their appearance.

This.

I have no idea why anyone thinks Cardi B is a role model.

But she has a great deal of exposure, which can influence impressionable people to follow her example

So what makes someone a role model?

Your own misogynistic language doesn’t help matters. You can raise up and highlight positive role models without being derogatory towards other women, who you view as lesser. It’s not a race to see who can be horrible the most about the Kardashian family, or who can find the most wrong with Cardi B. You focusing on them and discussing them in this way only feeds into all of their exposure.

Perhaps you could talk about and highlight and raise up the women you DO deem acceptable instead? Do good with your language instead of trashing other women to make a point.

The issue is not that there aren't good female tile models, as you admit there are plenty.
The issue is you don't approve of the few celebrities that have dissimilar taste to you and may not have led the lifestyle you approve of.
Not sure many of their followers think making a sex tape to get famous is such a good idea.

Don’t blame the individual women. Blame the system that rewards them for being nothing more than trophies

Our now adult daughter loved Mary Beard, Alice Roberts and Mary Worsley growing up and still does. Read Hilary Mantel, Alison Weir, Margaret Atwood, amongst others avidly. She has a passing interest in the Kardashians too, in a car-crash sort of way.

There are many great women in all fields if you take a little time to find them.

I think your view is quite skewed. There are many female good role models for children. Closest one could be their mother, sister, aunt, grand mother, friends, teachers etc.

Someone with a large following