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Best responses to "we did it my day and child is fine"

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Wowzers12 · 30/12/2022 19:52

New mum here - getting fed up of the generations above me (my mum, DH mum and Aunt) making comments like "we did it in my day and my children are all fine" about things to do with my DD that are now advised against by NHS, professionals etc.

Or the other way around, for example BLW - "all mine had purées and were fine"

What's a good response to this that shuts the conversation down without losing my s*?

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babyyodaxmas · 31/12/2022 06:54

www.food.gov.uk/research/food-allergy-and-intolerance-research/eat-study-early-introduction-of-allergenic-foods-to-induce-tolerance

On the weaning thing. The dogged adherence to 6m almost certainly increases allergies.

Babies the spend too long on their backs or srapped into a car seat have delayed motor development (average age of walking has increased and is youngercin cultures where they don't do this) and plaigencephaly (flat head symdrome) has increased, was extremely rare in the '50's.

Mainstream child rearing practice lags about 5 years behind the reasearch who knows what we will be doing in 2040.

ZL2014 · 31/12/2022 07:03

I had this the other day from my Mum and I’m on my third child!

it was over car seats and I’d said something about stopping on a hour drive with my newborn. She’d said about how it’s ridiculous as there was never a time restriction on car seats for us and we’re fine. I just return with “oh, is that back when smoking wasn’t bad for you too?” 😏

IneedanewTV · 31/12/2022 07:11

Cuwins · 30/12/2022 22:11

Let's hope the baby agrees. I wanted to do a mix of BLW and purées. Unfortunately DD disagreed and refused to have anything to do with a spoon! 😂 She had clearly not read the plan!

That is funny. My babies loved using a spoon or their hands. What has changed that babies don’t like using a spoon?
however I do notice that when we go out for a meal young people can’t use cutlery. Just ask a teacher - so many kids have to shown how to use a knife and fork at school as their parents haven’t taught them.

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babyyodaxmas · 31/12/2022 07:15

IneedanewTV · 31/12/2022 07:11

That is funny. My babies loved using a spoon or their hands. What has changed that babies don’t like using a spoon?
however I do notice that when we go out for a meal young people can’t use cutlery. Just ask a teacher - so many kids have to shown how to use a knife and fork at school as their parents haven’t taught them.

Different children? DS happily took to spoon and held it himself (one for him and one for me) from about 5m. Dd would have no truck whatsoever with spoon feeding but happily fed herself with her fingers from a similar age. TBH Dd still occasionally needs to be reminded to use cutlery at 16....

Matildatoldsuchdreadfullies · 31/12/2022 07:18

Sometimes advice goes round in circles.

In the early 70s, my grandmother was horrified when mum had us sleeping on our fronts. She told my mum we’d suffocate. Mum told her that was just an old wives’ tale, and that we were safer on out tums. Of course, we know now that ‘back to sleep’ is safer.

Going back even further, my grandmother’s generation thought the idea that German measles in pregnancy could lead to disability was an old wives’ tale.

miltonj · 31/12/2022 07:30

I think the main reason that older people do this is they perceive new parents doing things differently as a judgement or slight on how they did things, when that's not the case. I felt my MIL took some of the stuff I did personally, like rearward facing, using sleeping bags etc. I'd never mentioned anything about guidelines or back in the day until she did so I found it all upsetting to deal with.
I'd just respond with 'yes you did a lovely job mum (mil etc), I'm just trying to follow guidance'.

gogohmm · 31/12/2022 07:31

If that's the level of suggestions, listen, blw is a trend, fad - in many countries it isn't the norm and it doesn't work for all children. Nothing stopping you doing a bit of both anyway. Purées were the norm, my kids are fine! They are correct in that.

Obviously a few things have been discovered eg sleeping on backs rather than tummies but otherwise the older generation just might have some ideas for you

gogohmm · 31/12/2022 07:37

@FourTeaFallOut

It is, I've seen the number broken down. There's also more babies born with congenital issues (heart, genetic etc) that live past 1 so don't appear in the numbers now.

Decrease in child mortality isn't down to baby led weaning! That sort of thing comes under styles and trends, it's simply a choice.

Cuwins · 31/12/2022 08:26

@IneedanewTV
For DD I think a dislike of the spoon was related to medical issues meaning we had been putting syringes in her mouth twice a day since 6 weeks and she was very good at fighting them. So anything we wanted to put in her mouth was an automatic no.
At 10m she is fine with the spoon now but it took about 3m of her pure hand feeding to get there

happystory · 31/12/2022 08:27

How old are these parents/in-laws?! Surely no older than in their 60s? Some of their views are archaic!

Thedaysthatremain · 31/12/2022 08:41

happystory · 31/12/2022 08:27

How old are these parents/in-laws?! Surely no older than in their 60s? Some of their views are archaic!

My child is 3 and my in laws are in their 80's

ZeViteVitchofCwismas · 31/12/2022 09:44

My dd was rushed to hospital with breathing issues and her symptoms were very subtle. I remember trying to tell mil and she cut me of off with a swift ", I did manage to get mine through illness you know" and drove off.
She also wouldn't listen to nappies and her eyes glazed over when I said DD ran home crying for her nappy to go on.
I wish I had said that 80s fact about mortality and Sid's etc.

purpledalmation · 31/12/2022 12:07

Say, the advice then was for children to sleep on their side/tummy and now it's on their back. Cot deaths have massively reduced. Advice changes...hard stare.

YouWouldNotBelieveIt · 31/12/2022 12:08

AChristmasCaro · 30/12/2022 20:00

What I used to do- quite non-adversarial- was say “yes, it’s funny how they keep changing the advice. It’ll probably be different again by the time DC is grown up” in a light way and then carry on doing as you want.

This

purpledalmation · 31/12/2022 12:09

Tbh a lot of modern and old advice is crap. DS2 was BLW and ate like a trooper. Now at 9 he has the worst diet ever. So picky. DD had porridge and purées spoon fed, and eats reasonably.

IneedanewTV · 31/12/2022 12:09

Cuwins · 31/12/2022 08:26

@IneedanewTV
For DD I think a dislike of the spoon was related to medical issues meaning we had been putting syringes in her mouth twice a day since 6 weeks and she was very good at fighting them. So anything we wanted to put in her mouth was an automatic no.
At 10m she is fine with the spoon now but it took about 3m of her pure hand feeding to get there

Ah bless. Glad your DD is ok now.

SameScriptDifferentCast · 31/12/2022 12:18

Wowzers12 · 30/12/2022 19:52

New mum here - getting fed up of the generations above me (my mum, DH mum and Aunt) making comments like "we did it in my day and my children are all fine" about things to do with my DD that are now advised against by NHS, professionals etc.

Or the other way around, for example BLW - "all mine had purées and were fine"

What's a good response to this that shuts the conversation down without losing my s*?

I've done my research and I'm happy with my choices.

WinterDeWinter · 31/12/2022 12:29

LumpySpaceCow · 30/12/2022 20:03

I would usually say 'are they/you though?' with a cheeky grin 😁

yes this. Or, if they’re really fucking annoying,

“True.

For now. “

Rayn22 · 31/12/2022 13:06

YouremywifenowTubs · 30/12/2022 20:03

My parents in law did that about car seats.

”Neither of my two had car seats and they were fine.”

They were just never allowed to take my children out again after they didn’t use the car seat the first time and came out with that gem when I went crazy.

Telling them the risks (and the law!) just got the above response or noises and pulled faces.

Wow!! Not even the fact there are so many more cars on the road!

Aquasulis · 31/12/2022 13:08

I would say …. Yes well we used to stone people too here and cut off their hands as well. Cadit quastio

DelphiniumBlue · 31/12/2022 13:22

All interesting responses, and the generational variations are fascinating.
Someone upthread made a link between feeding an infant baby rice and coeliac disease - I'm wondering is that a known thing or is it anecdotal speculation?
And then that made me wonder ( after another OP commented that she suspected her allergies were related to what she was fed as a child)about the recent massive increases in asthma /eczema /serious food allergies /autism . I know some of it is down to better diagnostics, but that doesn't account for all of it, and you would think that given all the health advice disseminated these days that there would be far fewer illnesses/diseases/health issues than there actually are.
My evidence is only anecdotal, but I notice that in the school I work in there are about 5/6 children per year group with allergies that require medication/close monitoring, which is way more than there used to be. Any thoughts?

Thedaysthatremain · 31/12/2022 13:29

Children with really bad allergies just used to die

MissMarplesGoddaughter · 31/12/2022 13:33

Notanotherusername4321 · 30/12/2022 20:20

Thing was when my mum had me breastfeeding was dismissed as unhygienic and unscientific.

progress was moving on from these lower class ways and feeding your baby formula designed by scientists to meet their optimum nutritional needs, with the ability to sterilise feeding equipment so no risk of baby getting sick. Probably a hangover as well from the post war years where fat babies were highly prized and mums wouldn’t have had access to proper nutrition to support breastfeeding.

but then similar generation were led to believe smoking was good for the lungs and advertised as a cure for asthma etc.

@Notanotherusername4321

Just out of interest, what year and country are you referring too? I've never heard anyone say breast feeding is unhygienic and unscientific...

mikado1 · 31/12/2022 13:38

I was corrected on the coeliac /early rice comment.
An old book I was passed on had a page on washing your breasts before each feed 😂

FourTeaFallOut · 31/12/2022 13:40

Someone upthread made a link between feeding an infant baby rice and coeliac disease - I'm wondering is that a known thing or is it anecdotal speculation?

It's bollocks

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