What do you think about asylum seekers being sent to Rwanda?

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Just seen on the news that some of the asylum seekers arriving here on boats will be sent to Rwanda…

Do you think this will discourage people from making the dangerous journey across the channel? Is this the answer?

Im not sure what to think about it, seems a bit random… Why Rwanda?

But I guess something needs to be done to discourage people from paying these criminal gangs to set them up with unsafe boats with the intention of coming to the UK… What does everyone else think about this?

But only 1/10 think the Rwanda scheme is OK. Which is what this thread is about.

@Itsbiasedhere 👏👏👏

They'll probably get a better health service than we have here

But isn’t racist and prejudiced to suggest that Rwanda is a horrid place where these intelligent and principled refugees will not be able to seize the opportunity to make prosperous and constructive new lives? Just because it is in Africa and not in Europe. Shame on you.

I think it’s fucking appalling, we are all humans period.

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen very good point, I always think this too.

Nobody has said Rwanda is a “horrid place” 🙄

It’s the imperial freeness to bestow immigrants on Rwanda as though the country is a colonial outpost of the UK, that sits poorly with me

Isn't there a catch whereby we need to take on Rwandan people in exchange. I read that somewhere here.

I completely agree, why is everyone viewing Rwanda as such a hideous place to go? I admit I don’t know much about the country but it seems incredibly judgemental and fairly racist to assume it’s an awful place, just because it’s not Europe.

It's nothing short of government-sponsored people trafficking.
A despicable and cruel policy, dreamed up by despicable, cruel politicians.

Interesting that if you don’t condemn this you are ‘racist’ and ‘fucking thick’ not really going to convince anyone of your point of view that way.

Anyway on the surface this seems wrong but I don’t know enough about it to condemn it 100%. Not sure why economic migrants couldn’t be returned to their country instead. Or better patrols working with France. Seems like a mad solution.

I think it is also fair to remember the Rwandan genocide in the 90’s - sending asylum seekers to a nation so recently (in the great scheme of things) in turmoil is going to raise eyebrows, in much the same way sending them to Bosnia would.

It’s stupid. The people traffickers will still get the one off customers paying them. Most will not be sent to Rwanda, so they’re going to keep coming by dinghy. Rwanda will probably violate their human rights at some point, so not ideal partner for this.

We should never have left the EU. If we had stayed, then first EU country these asylum seekers came to they could apply for asylum in the U.K. from that EU country and that EU country would have an obligation to house, feed and help them while their asylum application was being processed by the U.K.. Then if approved, they’d get a UK refugee visa, go to the airport and come here legally via Heathrow or Gatwick. If not approved, they can then go for a second choice in the EU. No lives lost. Cheaper overall.

We are so fucking stupid it’s embarrassing.

*The average Card Factory shopper’s opinion is unlikely to be a viewpoint with value
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A perfect reply to show the laughable, thoughts and opinions of the "tolerant left". So basically someone poor or working class can't have valid opinions or be intelligent?

It's ok though, cause you read The Guardian and live on your virtuous pedestal, whilst being a repugnant snob to anyone who disagrees with you.

Vile

I think if they arrive here, claim asylum and are entitled to asylum they should stay here.

If they arrive here, claim asylum and aren't entitled to asylum they should be sent back to their own country.

Exactly. It's hilarious people don't see the irony in this

I didn't think this was right, so I've checked it out on the Oxford migration site. About 16% of people have it as one of the top priorities. That has been falling since it peaked in 2016. The high then was almost certainly related to EU immigration and the referendum.

Generally speaking, attitudes to immigration were softening up to 2020 which is the last briefing I can find on the Oxford website. I can only imagine it's becoming less and less of an issue given the huge labour shortage we have in multiple sectors across the UK meaning that we need more skilled and unskilled immigrants.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/uk-public-opinion-toward-immigration-overall-attitudes-and-level-of-concern/

‘The average Card Factory shopper’s opinion is unlikely to be a viewpoint with value.’ what on earth is that supposed to mean @SemperIdem ?

I don’t disagree with your views on the question posed, but doubt classist retorts are helpful 🙄

People who say things like 'play the race card' are usually racist.

It’s horrific.

The average Card Factory shopper’s opinion is unlikely to be a viewpoint with value

A perfect reply to show the laughable, thoughts and opinions of the "tolerant left". So basically someone poor or working class can't have valid opinions or be intelligent?

It's ok though, cause you read The Guardian and live on your virtuous pedestal, whilst being a repugnant snob to anyone who disagrees with you.

Vile

Wtf has Card Factory got to do with it? 🤯 Is there some sort of boycott of Card Factory going on that I don't know about because it's connected to the Tories?

FWIW I think it's an utterly cruel and shameful policy, it genuinely makes me feel ashamed to be British.

Feel like some of you are imposing your own prejudice onto a bunch of people who have said nothing of the sort and have no plans to actually read up on what the reality of these plans will be. I'll give you a clue, it won't reduce the number of people looking to come to the UK...

Isn't that irrelevant? If they claimed asylum in Rwanda fair enough but if they claimed it here it doesn't matter if Rwanda is Shangri La and the Promised Lane all rolled into one.