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How do slimming world and ww work?

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WhyamIdoingthis99 · 10/12/2022 21:49

Just interested in the concepts, thanks.

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MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 13/12/2022 23:40

Splodgerbodgerbadger · 13/12/2022 20:26

I did go to a group myself for a couple of years and it was depressing really, so and so has put on a pound because they ate a Wispa. Slimmer of the week pissed me off too. It was whoever lost the most lbs I once lost half a pound less than the slimmer of the week but they weighed more than double what I did so % I actually lost more. People were just obsessed and this nonsense about having to syn a banana because you mashed it. Stopped going in the end.

Tbf the value of any mashed /pureed fruit will change,that's why fruit smoothies aren't good for you. Ask any dentist and they'll agree.

herbaltea21 · 13/12/2022 23:58

Slimming world is great. It's sustainable because you aren't encouraged to go without food. The diet is essentially low fat. Everything is fresh.
I've tried fasting and calorie counting this past year but failed. I'll be rejoining see in the new year as, for me, that diet suited me most!

lampformyfeet · 24/06/2023 07:23

Much better to follow the Zoe project podcasts. They’re free to listen if the full Zoe thing is too expensive. The most recent one on snacking was an eye opener and it’s all backed by research. It’s not just calorie deficit that’s important it’s how, when and what you eat.
Ive failed at SW on a number of occasions and agree it doesn’t help with habit change. Those bar things are full of sugar

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lampformyfeet · 24/06/2023 07:25

Low fat is not the way forward- low fat high carbs really messes with your blood glucose control. Also SW encourages the eating of lots if UHP food which is really bad for you.

00100001 · 24/06/2023 07:42

God their cereal bars are full of all sorts of shit!

The real problems with SW is people don't follow the plan correctly.... Not even the leaders! You get leaders posting their meals of ...pasta with their 'healthy extra' cheese grated in top... and fuck all else. Or people having a small day free yoghurt, a dreadful bar, and a coffee for breakfast. Then they wonder why they are starving after an hour ha ha.

However,if they had a proper pasta meal "on plan" they would have had maybe a small portion of pasta with good pesto for X syns, and a whole load of roast veggies or crunchy salad. And if they'd had say, a measured amount of skyr, blueberries, a slice of toast and a coffee. They'd be "on plan" and be more successful.

00100001 · 24/06/2023 07:43

But t, that's probably why SW is flawed, if nit even the leaders can follow the plan and they're literally paid to do that... Then it's tricky!

Newgolddream70 · 24/06/2023 07:54

If these diet groups were so good, they wouldn't actually be in business would they? Everyone gets thin - THE END. They like overweight people because thats how they make their money! I don't understand why people can't get their heads around this. My friend has done SW twice - she loses and has put it all back on plus more. And OMG those bloody bars, she was obsessed by them.

One size doesn't fit all imo. There are too many variables. Since I hit 50, I can't eat/drink the way I used to. For me, fasting after 6pm works and I try and eat more protein than I used to. It's all trial and error. Yes, I could lose two stone on a shake or whatever but what have I actually learned about the way MY body works?

BarbaraofSeville · 24/06/2023 07:58

You have to remember that lots of people don't want to eat salad, vegetable based meals, avocados, lean protein, 'treat themselves' with a couple of squares of dark chocolate and they don't want to spend ages planning meals and cooking from scratch all the time.

Many people want to lose weight and still be able to eat snack food, chips etc. Suddenly stopping all this and switching to MN approved massive salads will be such a big change that they'll probably never do it. So the plan has to be attractive to them too.

And you never know, they might start to realise that eating more veg and salad and making 'processed crap' a much smaller part of their diet, or even eliminating it completely, will help them stay at a healthy weight without 'being on a diet' and even improve their health in general.

Hopefully all the current talking about the dangers of UPFs is going to inspire people to change, but while we have big powerful businesses pushing it in front of all the healthier food, it's very very hard.

Someone posted the other day how they wanted to buy ready to eat food while out and about and it was very difficult to find something that isn't UPF. Because all the bread is, as is just about everything else. You can sometimes get a prepared salad/protein bowl type thing in somewhere like M&S, but it costs twice as much as everything else and is often quite small, so not very filling.

BarbaraofSeville · 24/06/2023 08:03

My friend has done SW twice - she loses and has put it all back on plus more

Because she goes back to eating the way that caused he to gain weight. That's the same for any type of healthy eating, whether you're calling it a diet or lifestyle change etc.

SW encourages people to eat unprocessed food, meat, fish, pulses, eggs, salad, veg, fruit. And limit the amount of processed/high calorie food like bread, pastry, crisps, alcohol, biscuits etc to a very small part of your diet. When you're down to a healthy weight to gradually increase the amounts of higher calorie healthy foods like nuts, olive oil, dairy etc until you find the point where your weight is stable.

Which looks suspiciously like the way all the MN healthy food devotees tell people to eat.

WeAreTheHeroes · 24/06/2023 08:04

They work because you eat fewer calories than you expend. Same as any diet. Different people find different approaches work for them as in they can stick to them. I've done SW in the past and it works. The eat as much x as you want bit is often misinterpreted - it's eat as much x until you are full then there are rules about how to divide your plate up for different food groups. You don't count calories on either SW or WW - they're designed to get you to recognise which foods are calorie dense and that if you want to lose weight you need to eat less of them.

onlywayissussex · 24/06/2023 08:25

They both have strict rules and restrictions

It's really messed up my approval to food. Started doing both in my 20s and had success various times but always put weight back on

Look into slimpod as an alternative

onlywayissussex · 24/06/2023 08:26

Approach to food. Not approval

RosettaStormer · 24/06/2023 09:38

BarbaraofSeville · 24/06/2023 08:03

My friend has done SW twice - she loses and has put it all back on plus more

Because she goes back to eating the way that caused he to gain weight. That's the same for any type of healthy eating, whether you're calling it a diet or lifestyle change etc.

SW encourages people to eat unprocessed food, meat, fish, pulses, eggs, salad, veg, fruit. And limit the amount of processed/high calorie food like bread, pastry, crisps, alcohol, biscuits etc to a very small part of your diet. When you're down to a healthy weight to gradually increase the amounts of higher calorie healthy foods like nuts, olive oil, dairy etc until you find the point where your weight is stable.

Which looks suspiciously like the way all the MN healthy food devotees tell people to eat.

That wasn’t my experience of SW.

Wasley · 24/06/2023 09:51

Eat three meals a day , whatever you want just sensible portions .

Snack on fruit in between.

Ditch or drastically cut down on chocolate crisps , sweets , biscuits , ice cream etc

Limit alcohol

Takeaways , Mc Donald's etc occasional treats.

We all know what to do . It's just getting in that mindset to do it .

Reading between the lines of these diet groups readers success stories , most of them drastically increased there exercise and made it part of their lives .

Basically it's eat wisely. Eat less and move more

I believe a lot of obesity began with the microwave , and the rise of microwave meals . It's just too easy to take one to work and when your time strapped .

00100001 · 24/06/2023 12:23

RosettaStormer · 24/06/2023 09:38

That wasn’t my experience of SW.

That's because very few people and the leaders actually follow the plan....

00100001 · 24/06/2023 12:25

Wasley · 24/06/2023 09:51

Eat three meals a day , whatever you want just sensible portions .

Snack on fruit in between.

Ditch or drastically cut down on chocolate crisps , sweets , biscuits , ice cream etc

Limit alcohol

Takeaways , Mc Donald's etc occasional treats.

We all know what to do . It's just getting in that mindset to do it .

Reading between the lines of these diet groups readers success stories , most of them drastically increased there exercise and made it part of their lives .

Basically it's eat wisely. Eat less and move more

I believe a lot of obesity began with the microwave , and the rise of microwave meals . It's just too easy to take one to work and when your time strapped .

Exercise will do pretty much fuck all to help weight loss, most people won't be doing nearly enough to make any real difference. Maybe burn 2-300 cals a day? Maybe....

. It's calories that is the key.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 24/06/2023 13:09

I've lost 3 stone with just walking as I have mobile issues, diet and exercise are separate things.

Nishky32 · 25/06/2023 15:50

00100001 · 24/06/2023 12:25

Exercise will do pretty much fuck all to help weight loss, most people won't be doing nearly enough to make any real difference. Maybe burn 2-300 cals a day? Maybe....

. It's calories that is the key.

I once went from size 16 to 12 because I joined a gym- no change to diet whatever

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