there's a hierarchy in the royal family apparently says the prince of privilege

[Believeinyou]

who knew?

In general most humans would rather stay in a bad situation they know, than take a risk where they do not know the outcome

Would they?

Anyway, who knows what really happened with Margaret, she's long dead.

Much of the audience will be American and not as familiar with the ins and outs of royal family life and protocol as British audiences are.

I'm pretty sure Americans know a queen outranks a prince. And a father outranks a son. Hierarchies are not the sole province of the British Royal Family.

Was he told this though ???
Seems unlikely that it was part of everyday life ...

I think when a lot of stuff was published about Harry people were quite forgiving of him.

Comes a point though as you get older you can make sure that there's nothing that can be published about you...

@Lulu1919 He says some members of the family jokingly called him the spare. Diana also said that the family wanted her to exclude Harry from various public occasions but she refused.

So we already see only George at some occasions. That will increase and is normal for the Royal Family. Only the heir at some public occasions and the "spares" left at home.

Let me guess - he thinks his family should be linked, not ranked?

Meghan said "we upset the hierarchy just by existing" so there's clearly a lot gone on there, which may be clarified in their Netflix series.

I think what she meant by this was that her and Harry's press around the time of their wedding was so brilliant that it outshone William's and Kate's, and the mandarins didn't appreciate that upending of hierarchy. She's saying she and her husband, merely by existing, were too amazing, too undowdy, too beautiful, too "rock star". Entirely possible they were.

I’m amazed he has finally realised this. It only took him nearly 40 years.

I don’t think enough was done to give William and Harry a normal childhood. They were stuck in the middle of a very messy marriage and who knows what they heard growing up.

But isn’t it only in recent years that William and Charles are on good terms? Wasn’t there said to be a massive divide between them for years? William supposedly pushed against him for years and opted to be with the Middletons over his own family.

I remember the magazines had a field day when George was born and up until he was a toddler that Charles was disappointed that there was more time spent with the Middletons than him?

Then after Charlotte was born they seemed to be seen together more and spoke warmly of each other. Almost like whatever had gone on between them had been sorted out.

Maybe Harry and William were a team against Charles and once William decided to clear the air or whatever Harry got irritated over it.

Wasn’t it more than the titles?
she would have had to leave the country and fam in the same way her uncle had to?

Against this background Harry and Meghan seem to generate a level of opprobium that is out of all proportion to whatever supposed wrongs they have committed!

I do think Megan had fallen foul of the evil woman seducing innocent man trope.

Harry is frequently excused - and treated like he's not a grown man making his own decisions.

That's not to say I think Megan had behaved well - I don't think she has and she is clearly trying to exploit royal connections for all they are worth now and I do think that is sometimes at expense of UK image in US at least.

It's worrying that it has taken Harry, the 'spare' heir to the throne, thirty eight years to realise that there is a hierarchy within the royal family.

Two short planks, and mince spring to mind!

No, he had to leave because he was a living King. They could have the man who wa King hanging around, being a public figure, being seen as an advisor whilst his younger brother tried to take the place as King. He had to go. The whole thing was an embarrassment.

Margaret marrying Peter wasnt an embarrassment in that way and didnt upend the system. She was never going to get on the throne so there was no need for her to be sent away.

When she turned 25 and the press were clambering all over them to find out if they would marry, Margaret wrote a letter in which she said that she wouldnt be pushed into a marriage because public opinion was behind them, and she wouldnt refuse him because of family issues. She would make the choice for herself. It was painted as a love story stopped by protocol and the need for sacrificing titles etc but it may not have been quite like that.

I don't think so she was not a previous monarch like her Uncle.

Noel Botham in his book, Margaret: The Last Real Princess, quotes Captain Townsend’s reasons as to why the couple never married.
He is reported to have said: “She could have married me only if she’d been prepared to give up everything - her position, her prestige, her privy purse.
“I simply hadn’t the weight, I knew it, to counterbalance all she would have lost.
But it seems Captain Townsend didn’t resent Margaret for her decision not to marry him.
He added: “Thinking of it calmly, all these years after, you couldn’t have expected her to become an ordinary housewife overnight, could you?“And to be fair, I wouldn’t have wanted that for her. Let’s say I just knew that, if she gave up everything, it wouldn’t work out.”

I think the Queen Mother's views would also have been a factor.

This is so true. My DM is obsessed with hating M and H and will find ways to insert criticism of them into any conversation (and assumes everyone else is up to date with the latest Daily Mail revelations) while at the same time idolising the likes of Donald Trump, Nigel Farage and, most recently, Matt Hancock. I'd love to hear a psychologist's explanation of this mentality.

Lots of people have bowed to him through the years, does he think this is also unfair.

Thank you @WeepingSomnambulist and@GloomyDarkness for the explanation. I just vaguely remembered she would have had to give up everything.

It was convenient that it was only leaked Margaret could have married after she died and could not contradict the message.

I'd love to hear a psychologist's explanation of this mentality.

That she's an individual entitled to her own opinion. 😱

He would have been very unlikely to have a) gone to Sandhurst and b) got into an elite regiment without his family connections and the 'hierarchy' that he now complains about

He really is the worst kind of woke, woke to only the things that effect him or his wife personally but oblivious to the privilege he himself benefits from. I have a special tiny violin for him 🎻

This

Life is full of hierarchies:
Those that have more money than you.
People with titles.
The British Class system.
Children of Celebrities.
Those that can afford to turn their heating on.
High cheekbones.

Absolutely

This did make me laugh

This.

And thank you for the new word opprobrium! I'll now out myself on FB by using it on there.