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Lifeboat Muster Point for TalkExiles - Thread 2

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Kucingsparkles · 07/12/2022 08:45

Continuation of previous thread.

Gather here all ye refugees from the foundering ship of JTT, if ye be in need of "How the heck do I format my post?" "Why can't I edit my typos?" "What do those acronyms mean?" and most importantly, "Where is everybody that I used to know?"

Or just to chat randomly.

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Tricyrtis2022 · 12/12/2022 17:44

I hadn't come across that before, Kuc, there are some lovely old doors there.

There is also 'Brick of the Day' on FB, there's some interesting stuff on there.

Ginmonkeyagain · 12/12/2022 18:13

I will go to my death screaming "putting things in piles is NOT TIDYING UP!"

My friends' mum, whose husband also does this, calls them "tramp's nests"

CyanCyan · 12/12/2022 18:16

What’s the point of putting things away if you’re just going to get them out again?

IReallyLikeCrows · 12/12/2022 18:30

I like Tramp's Nests.

Pike, I'm so glad you're about to complete but I know how stressful the whole thing can be. I'm lucky because I'm one step removed from it but a friend who finally completed and moved last year was a wreck. I was seriously concerned about her mental health and she's about a million times better now that she's in her new place and settled in.

Britinme · 12/12/2022 18:49

Mr Brit (10Smith for those who knew him in the Other Place) is also a Person who Puts things in Piles. However, he and I frequently spend time each absorbed into what we are doing on our own computers, or (in my case at any rate) reading.

dollymixedup · 12/12/2022 19:16

My whole house is tramp piles!

Moving house is the absolute worse pike - I think partly because it is out of your control, hopefully completion is quick and easy for you. Relaxing once you are in your new place is great though.

otraynor · 12/12/2022 19:54

I'm afraid I've been the one with the piles, in every relationship I've been in. Some men have tolerated that better than others. My ex-fiance was probably the best with them. He even purchased bookcase after bookcase after bookcase to give my book piles a place to go.

otraynor · 12/12/2022 19:58

And I agree completely, Cyan.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 12/12/2022 20:13

I am a piler. Although a lot of them are moving piles, on their way to the correct place.

This would work better if MrBint grasped the concept - he hates piles, but when he goes up or down stairs never picks up any of the things stacked on the steps awaiting transport.

Gonners · 12/12/2022 20:14

MrGon is a jotter-down of notes to himself on small scraps of paper, which heap up on his desk. Periodically (maybe every six months) I ask him to clear it out, and he painstakingly goes through them and throws out almost everything, because he no longer has a clue what they were about. Most of them relate to things like what episode of some downloaded series he is on, and what minute he was up to.

I use a spiral notebook, but am equally mystified by some of my casual notes-to-self. I've just ordered 2 x A6 ring-binders, with loads of extra separators and spare paper. Pray for us.

Gonners · 12/12/2022 21:18

Oh, and can I just say that (after what - just a bit over 2 weeks?) I'm really starting to like it here.

dollymixedup · 12/12/2022 22:26

I have about a dozen or so hard back A4 notebooks, full of lists from the past, I also have about 4 current ones which are not quite full yet. I don't think I could dare look back through them - all that unfinished stuff would freak me out!

I have a mania for buying journals, planners (garden, budget, wellbeing you name it) in an attempt to make my listing more organized but they usually end up unused and shoved in a cupboard.

dollymixedup · 12/12/2022 22:34

@BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn

There are many customers I would like to fire out of a cannon! The queue is constantly out of the door and quite honestly it feels like all the stupid have come to town. Although today a customer handed this to my colleague and I almost cried!

Lifeboat Muster Point for TalkExiles - Thread 2
Dotellhimpike · 12/12/2022 22:41

Yes, I too am enjoying it here, having been having a right old back and forth frank exchange of views on some threads but have been struck by how despite strongly held opinions, it does not immediately descend to a pile on and insult fest the way the old place does if you dare to express any view whatsoever that isn't the majority one.

I also like how many of us are pilers of books and whatnot, though I am a natural hoarder and am even considering some sort of CBT to deal with it as I think it's at an unhealthy level. I mean, who needs seven record players? and that's just a for instance.

And thank you everyone for the kind words re house buying.

duc748 · 12/12/2022 22:54

I'd agree with that, pike, and add that there's a refreshing lack of the tedious virtue-signalling we saw so much of at t'other place.

artant · 12/12/2022 23:22

I am guilty of creating piles of books, post, random paperwork etc. I’m also guilty of not creating piles but just leaving stuff all over the place. At least there is some sense of order in a pile. There is so much junk in this house and I really need to get it sorted out.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 12/12/2022 23:25

Good to be on the final stretch of the house buying, Pike - the UK process is seemingly designed to maximise stress for everyone involved.

dollymixedup · 12/12/2022 23:28

Pilers not pile ons FTW!

There is a hoarding thread here I noticed, I haven't opened it yet - not brave enough!

CyanCyan · 13/12/2022 00:44

artant · 12/12/2022 23:22

I am guilty of creating piles of books, post, random paperwork etc. I’m also guilty of not creating piles but just leaving stuff all over the place. At least there is some sense of order in a pile. There is so much junk in this house and I really need to get it sorted out.

Similar here. About once a year I attack my desk and pile up all the paperwork with the intention of shredding it, but invariably it just ends up in a bag full of other paperwork I intend to shred that has been steadily growing over the course of a decade. I enjoy the tidy desk for a day or two before it fills up with crap again and I work around it for another year. I also have a habit of opening post and then putting it on the floor in the hall because I don’t have a table there to put it on. And I’m very bad at putting away laundry.

Despite all this the rest of my flat is relatively tidy and I somehow manage to stay on top of everything I need to do.

IReallyLikeCrows · 13/12/2022 02:55

I'll be donating about 200 books to charity shops this week and it's both liberating and terrifying. It's all books I've read and am reasonably sure I won't want to read again. For example three of my Jay McInerney books are going the other six are not. Donna Tartt is handy because she only has three books - it's nearly a decade Donna, so time for your next one! Give me a few years and I'll have built the numbers up again.

I have many note books on the go. Well only three at the moment. I got a re-gifted Smythson which is for thoughts, irregular diary stuff, great ideas. I've had it a few years and it's way too precious for the mundane. I have my knitting notebook that's for keeping up with where I am in any given project. For I'm a mental reasons I only use a red pen in it and had to use a parker gel pen (black) that made me very itchy this evening. The other one is new. I like lists and I picked up a nice looking to do journal. Oh my, it is that and so much more. It's a to do list a day where there's space to put in date and circle what day of the week it is. It turned up on 1st December so that felt perfect. It's called a check in journal. You write three words, with or without details about how you're feeling each morning, and then check out each night. So, a whole year's worth of that and then a fair number of lined and dotted paper at the back and at the front a calendar, that again, you fill in. Some stuff at the beginning about self care and mindfulness (I'm more about mindlessness but there you go). It's a thing of wonder and the check in check out helps you keep track of your state of mind and maybe see someone if you're noticing problems. Oh, and a pocket at the back. It's moleskin (sp?) quality and not cheap but cheaper than a moleskin.

I'm famed for some of my lists. The year that Pope Hitler got the job I wrote a list of all the cardinals who were papabile (able/suitable to become pope) and some notes about them next to their names. Joseph Ratzinger got two words next to his name: "seems cuntish".

IReallyLikeCrows · 13/12/2022 03:00

Re pile on type behaviour. The other place is small and insular and the moderation leans toward a certain group. I don't think it's deliberate favouritism but blah. Too few people, everyone knows just about everyone, it's all too easy for insularity to become toxic. This is a big place, the moderation is fair, swift and shows no favouritism. I also think that the fact that the majority of people her are women makes a huge difference.

Britinme · 13/12/2022 03:34

I agree with you @IReallyLikeCrows . The difference in atmosphere is palpable.

mach2 · 13/12/2022 06:32

My surfaces are covered by random piles of unsorted stuff. I kept a tighter ship when mum was with me - I had to.

Ginmonkeyagain · 13/12/2022 07:08

I had noticed for a while in the other place there was an increasing lack of intellectual curiosity. Positions and ideas have been set and everything informed through personal political lens. It was depressing when trying to discuss anything other than the lightest whimsey as you knew exactly how it would pan out, people had their script and most didn't even felt the need to evidence or justify their position any more.

The events of a few weeks ago cemented that as so many people were completely unwilling or unable to engage honestly in an issue that challenged them intellectually and politically.

The way the sex based rights thread was treated was a symptom of a deeper malaise IMO.

Dotellhimpike · 13/12/2022 08:29

"I had noticed for a while in the other place there was an increasing lack of intellectual curiosity."

Perfectly summarised. There was also a curious tendency to see things that weren't there in someone's posts, once an opinion had been formed about them. For instance, I was taken to task about a month or two ago for the way I was interacting with some others. The person taking me to task was apoplectic at my posting style, and they told me in no uncertain terms that they were sick of the way I resorted to sex based insults, such as I had been doing for the last few days. I explained to them that if they went back and looked again, all the sex based insults suck as cocksucker, go suck a dick, cunt etc, were actually being used against me by others, and the worst thing I'd said that could be construed as such was using the term 'circle jerk'

Their response was to accuse me of being a far right troll, as the term circle jerk was a term used exclusively by far right trolls, and as for all the other sex based insults that had been levelled at me? well I was so awful that I had forced other people to resort to such language. I wish I was exagerrating.

Without naming the person in question, they are one of the leading people involved in taking over the site, and overseeing how it's going to be run going forward.