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Things That Shouldn’t Be Said To Children

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SunshineLollipopsAndRainbows · 28/11/2022 07:39

I get quite upset hearing parents deal with sometimes really little children. For example, I was at work & a little girl was dawdling in the shop. Her dad said “ Ok we’ll leave you then”. Heard this so often & how awful for the child who doesn’t understand that the parent wouldn’t actually do that. When I worked as a nanny, one of the Mums used to threaten that “ Beryl” would come & get her 3 year old. I took her on the tube once & she was inconsolable when a woman near us called her friend “ Beryl”. However, it was sweet revenge when the Mum was attempting to dry the little girl’s hair & she was struggling, saying “No, I want Beryl to do it”!
I’ve also heard parents threaten their kids with the police & even that they would send them to hospital if they didn’t behave. Why don’t they think before they speak?

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rustcohlesmug · 28/11/2022 11:15

00100001 · 28/11/2022 07:58

But what does it achieve?

Apart from the message that "Me, your most trusted person in the entire world, will leave you here alone" and I'm going to scare you into coming with me.

And people wonder why adults around us are fucking arseholes who use manipulation/scare tactics to get what they want, or are emotionally suppressed or whatever. When parents do shit like "aww, mummy is sad you don't want to cuddle me" or "don't cry, it doesn't hurt" or "you're not getting down from table until you eat x" or whatever.

Yeah, it might seem dramatic, but it's all these small things that undermine relationships and cause trust issues etc later in life.

Totally agree with you on this. I can’t stand the ‘bye, then/ I’ll leave you here’ style of parenting. I always go with ‘Mummy needs to go somewhere else now and I’d really like you to come with me’.

Works every time.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 28/11/2022 11:15

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/11/2022 11:15

Telling young children that there’s no Father Christmas.

I would like to be able to inflict very painful piles on any joyless, miserable bitch or bastard who does this. 🎄😈

That's a bit much. Not everyone celebrates Christmas. And it is not unreasonable for those children to know it's all bullshit

Ch3wylemon · 28/11/2022 11:17

Persuading children to eat a small spoonful of vegetables is a
good thing in most circumstances. I think it takes something like 9 attempts to acquire a taste for a particular food. I'd never insist my DC cleared their plates, but I would expect them to try new foods.

As for consequences, again a good thing for children to learn that behaviour has consequences but to be effective it has to be a) real and b) appropriate. So obviously the children's home nasty policemen are unwise and cruel, but telling a child that if they don't hurry up you won't have time to go to the park after the shops is real - especially if you carry it out.

The consequences of not parenting children are Adults who don't eat vegetables and don't think they need to be anywhere on time.

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stuntbubbles · 28/11/2022 11:17

rustcohlesmug · 28/11/2022 11:15

Totally agree with you on this. I can’t stand the ‘bye, then/ I’ll leave you here’ style of parenting. I always go with ‘Mummy needs to go somewhere else now and I’d really like you to come with me’.

Works every time.

Works every time on your child. Not mine.

rustcohlesmug · 28/11/2022 11:19

JustFrustrated · 28/11/2022 10:43

'kin hell. No context whatsoever is available when you hear a passing snapshot of a conversation.

This weekend alone to my 10 year old

  • I swear to God I'm going to throw you out a window if you don't do xyz now
  • Ohhh I could just roast your pet rabbit and eat her
  • I will smack you with this hair brush in a minute
  • I'll poke you in your eye again
  • Get yourself here, now, or there will be consequences.
  • god, you're the most annoying 10 year old ever.

Two in public, the rest at home. Only one of them was said with any kind of frustration or even anger (second to last).

Funnily enough, because a)she knows me, b)understands context c)knows there is as much chance of me throwing her out of a window as there is of my picking a spider up, she just laughs and rolls her eyes AND THEN DOES WHAT SHES BEEN ASKED TO DO.

People need to relax.

If a child is surrounded by love and security then those times you do say a flippant comment that perfect Pete parents don't like...it will do the grand total of fuck all damage.

Fuck. All.

You know what does damage kids? When they're not surrounded by love and security, and the love they do get is haphazard and insecure. That's when the comments matter.

It's all balance.

It's in the tone of voice, e.g. the man I heard telling his kid he'd smack him if he didn't hurry up - you could hear the truth of that statement in his voice. The man I heard telling his daughter that if she didn't come he was leaving her...nope, no truth there. Just impatience and the need to be doing something else.

Children aren't god's, and they need to understand there is a time and place for all things. And other people matter.

Wait, what?

You said all of the above to your child over the course of a weekend?

Talk about keeping therapists in business..

SommerTen · 28/11/2022 11:19

It depends on the situation though. My godson aged 4 has got into a very bad habit of stealing in shops, I found out to my shock.
He ran off from his mum & me and we found him in the mini supermarket eating an item.
So his mum took the item off him, told him off, and gave it to the shop assistant who she then asked to tell him off as well which he did but obviously very reluctantly as my godson is small & cute.
We also threatened him with the police. Cue tantrums and tears yet he tried stealing something else later!!
The thing is that the criminal age of responsibility is ten, if he doesn't learn now then in 6 years time being cute won't cut it.

RudsyFarmer · 28/11/2022 11:20

We had Miriam and Steve 🤣. If the kids were really playing up we’d say they’d be round to pick them up. We’d give them really interesting jobs. Steve would work in the iPad factory and got to take iPads for free as a perk of the job and Miriam worked for a Cadbury’s, although we’d change their jobs depending on what the kids were really into. I think she was last known to be manufacturing micro bits with an Easter Egg factory as a second job.

It’s now a running joke in the house and the kids make up what jobs these fictional people have. I don’t think anyone needs to be calling SS over it.

Jellycatspyjamas · 28/11/2022 11:21

I always go with ‘Mummy needs to go somewhere else now and I’d really like you to come with me’.

When my child is in an “I don’t want to” mood, they couldn’t give a shiny shit whether mummy would really like them to come with me - they need to be clearly told to get a move on. Oddly enough different things work for different chikdren in different moods, who’d have thought it!

rustcohlesmug · 28/11/2022 11:23

stuntbubbles · 28/11/2022 11:17

Works every time on your child. Not mine.

No need to get uppity.

Palmface · 28/11/2022 11:25

00100001 · 28/11/2022 07:58

But what does it achieve?

Apart from the message that "Me, your most trusted person in the entire world, will leave you here alone" and I'm going to scare you into coming with me.

And people wonder why adults around us are fucking arseholes who use manipulation/scare tactics to get what they want, or are emotionally suppressed or whatever. When parents do shit like "aww, mummy is sad you don't want to cuddle me" or "don't cry, it doesn't hurt" or "you're not getting down from table until you eat x" or whatever.

Yeah, it might seem dramatic, but it's all these small things that undermine relationships and cause trust issues etc later in life.

It's the difference between having a connection with your child (I.e. your approach as far as I can tell) and an obedient child with a lazy domineering parent getting their way. I was raised under the latter and hope to achieve the former, so all these scare tactics to manipulate kids are out the window. Yes it's harder work but I think worth it in the end.

rustcohlesmug · 28/11/2022 11:27

Jellycatspyjamas · 28/11/2022 11:21

I always go with ‘Mummy needs to go somewhere else now and I’d really like you to come with me’.

When my child is in an “I don’t want to” mood, they couldn’t give a shiny shit whether mummy would really like them to come with me - they need to be clearly told to get a move on. Oddly enough different things work for different chikdren in different moods, who’d have thought it!

In truth though, not everything has to be a battle ground. The ‘I will leave you here’ approach doesn’t work for my kids. It only serves to upset them and then we’re even longer getting to where we need to be.

antelopevalley · 28/11/2022 11:28

00100001 · 28/11/2022 07:58

But what does it achieve?

Apart from the message that "Me, your most trusted person in the entire world, will leave you here alone" and I'm going to scare you into coming with me.

And people wonder why adults around us are fucking arseholes who use manipulation/scare tactics to get what they want, or are emotionally suppressed or whatever. When parents do shit like "aww, mummy is sad you don't want to cuddle me" or "don't cry, it doesn't hurt" or "you're not getting down from table until you eat x" or whatever.

Yeah, it might seem dramatic, but it's all these small things that undermine relationships and cause trust issues etc later in life.

Because the alternative is to spend 30 minutes persuading a reluctant child to move when you have to get somewhere. Life can't always be what a child wants to do.

VenusClapTrap · 28/11/2022 11:30

‘Uppity’?! Oh well at least you didn’t resort to pass agg flowers and ‘I’m sorry you struggled with your dc’ like I received 😂

antelopevalley · 28/11/2022 11:30

Jellycatspyjamas · 28/11/2022 11:21

I always go with ‘Mummy needs to go somewhere else now and I’d really like you to come with me’.

When my child is in an “I don’t want to” mood, they couldn’t give a shiny shit whether mummy would really like them to come with me - they need to be clearly told to get a move on. Oddly enough different things work for different chikdren in different moods, who’d have thought it!

Yep. My DD, I don't want to go. Or even - I'd like you to stay with me.

Haycorns4Piglet · 28/11/2022 11:33

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 28/11/2022 11:15

Telling young children that there’s no Father Christmas.

I would like to be able to inflict very painful piles on any joyless, miserable bitch or bastard who does this. 🎄😈

We did a project on 'Fantasy' in reception, where the teachers told us! In RECEPTION!! Luckily I didn't really believe them.

MissMarplesNiece · 28/11/2022 11:33

"I'm going to have you put away in a children's home". "All children are born as a result of accidents". Said to me frequently when I was a young teenager. Now my mother is nice as pie to me "I wanted you so much" "I loved you so much when you were born" Now she's old and frail and I'm one of her carers & she wants me round all the time. No wonder I suffer with anxiety.

antelopevalley · 28/11/2022 11:34

DH always used to be told his parents would move when he was at school.

BungleandGeorge · 28/11/2022 11:36

There’s lots of evidence to show that children need boundaries to feel safe and secure. And lots of evidence that if you’re warm and loving most of the time you can slip up sometimes. I wish people would not be quite so judgemental. As a parent you need to do what is right for your child and not what they want all the time. So what do people do with a child who refuses to eat and is losing weight, a child who needs to be at a medical appointment in 5 minutes, a child who is making driving dangerous because they’re taking their seatbelt off? Children don’t always have the skills and maturity to judge what is best for them.

babyyodaxmas · 28/11/2022 11:36

"Come on we are going now".
" I don't want to"
" Yes I can see that, it is difficult to leave something/ somewhere you are enjoying"
"I'm not coming"
" I am afraid you have to or we will miss the bus/be late for school/ leave our friends waiting for us"

Calm, factual acknowledging their thoughts and feelings.

BungleandGeorge · 28/11/2022 11:39

babyyodaxmas · 28/11/2022 11:36

"Come on we are going now".
" I don't want to"
" Yes I can see that, it is difficult to leave something/ somewhere you are enjoying"
"I'm not coming"
" I am afraid you have to or we will miss the bus/be late for school/ leave our friends waiting for us"

Calm, factual acknowledging their thoughts and feelings.

Yes but what do you actually then do when they ignore you and don’t move?

babyyodaxmas · 28/11/2022 11:40

Also for DS aged 6-8 years.
You mustn't hit people (me, your sister, children at school) one day you are going to be bigger and stronger than me. Grown up men who hit people end up in trouble with the police/ in prison.

BeanieTeen · 28/11/2022 11:42

Her dad said “ Ok we’ll leave you then”. Heard this so often & how awful for the child who doesn’t understand that the parent wouldn’t actually do that.

It would be awful if they were actually left behind. But they’re not. It must be hard work overthinking life the way you do OP.

surreygirl1987 · 28/11/2022 11:46

I agree with you actually OP. My inlaws said to my 2 year old that they'd leave him behind and he was beside himself. I was furious!

ChilomenaPunk · 28/11/2022 11:46

One more bite also seems pretty benign to me, and a world away from making DC finish plates

Exactly. The main thing is that mealtimes are not a battle ground. For me it was just getting them to try something I'd made when they were in a fussy phase, there was certainly no edict to finish their plates, and I'd just whip the meal away and give bread and butter as an alternative. Generally they were good eaters and have no diet or weight issues now as teenagers, so I must have got something right.

babyyodaxmas · 28/11/2022 11:46

What age ?
If I had a buggy (so 2 or 3) I might just put them in it.
If 4 or 5 I think I would;
a) As far as possible make the desirable environment really boring so clear away all toys
b) Use all the non-verbal cues I had putting on my own coat, finding keys, getting their coat and holding it open - basically using nudge theory
c) Withdraw my attention, after acknowledging thier feelings, don't keep arguing.